FeatsofPower, do you agree with my Freeza Saga numbers?

[Hector]

@FeatsofPower

Freeza 1st Form: 530 thousand
Vegeta: 480 thousand
Gohan: 125 thousand
Krillin: 100 thousand
Freeza 2nd Form (initial): 1 million
Gohan (1st rage): 875 thousand
Freeza 2nd Form (powered up): 1.25 million
Piccolo (weighted): 264 thousand
Piccolo (unweighted): 330 thousand
Namiccolo (weighted): 1.32 million
Freeza 2nd Form (full power): 1.5 million
Namiccolo (unweighted): 1.65 million
Freeza 3rd Form: 2.5 million
Zenkai Gohan: 1 million
Gohan (2nd rage): 2.25 million
Freeza 4th Form (initial): 7.5 million
Zenkai Vegeta (anime-filler suppression): 4.8 million
Zenkai Vegeta (full power): 7.2 million
Freeza 4th Form (speed up): 9 million
Goku (initial): 9 million
Goku (full power): 13.5 million
Freeza 4th Form (no hands): 15 million
Freeza 4th Form (full power): 600 million
SSJ Goku: 675 million
Gohan (anime-filler rage): 7 million

 

[FeatsofPower]

Gohan: 125 thousand
Krillin: 100 thousand

These are much too low. Gohan and Krillen are stated to have insane power, capable of helping Vegeta defeat Freeza.

I have Krillen at 200k and Gohan at 250k

I can’t see Krillen lower than 150k and Gohan can’t be lower than 200k. That’s your range.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Gohan and Kuririn aren’t stated to have “insane power”. They are just said to be powerful enough to turn the tide on a somewhat close battle.

I think the lower the best for these two since they should be much weaker than Piccolo.

 

[Hector]

These are much too low. Gohan and Krillen are stated to have insane power, capable of helping Vegeta defeat Freeza.

I have Krillen at 200k and Gohan at 250k

I can’t see Krillen lower than 150k and Gohan can’t be lower than 200k. That’s your range.

I wanted to give Gohan the same "anger multiplier" both before and after the zenkai, and the anime-filler rage brings him at least close to the initial power of Final Form Freeza.

 

[FeatsofPower]

I wanted to give Gohan the same "anger multiplier" both before and after the zenkai,

Where is your evidence he gets the same multiplier? The evidence shows us the multiplier, the multiplier doesn't show us the evidence.

and the anime-filler rage brings him at least close to the initial power of Final Form Freeza.

Horrendous logic, Gohan's anger topped out at a level nearing 3rd Form Freeza. That anime filler with Freeza needing to buff up to take out Gohan was laughable.

 

[Yoshi]

I agree that Initial Second Form Freeza is exactly 1 million. Having him at 1.06 million causes issues.

 

[FeatsofPower]

I agree that Initial Second Form Freeza is exactly 1 million. Having him at 1.06 million causes issues.

He's stated to be over a million, so there's no way around that.

What kind of issues are caused?

 

[Kyo]

Makes it ever so slightly harder for 3m to work, clearly.

 

[Yoshi]

He's stated to be over a million, so there's no way around that.

What kind of issues are caused?

He powers up to show he's over a million.

 

[FeatsofPower]

He powers up to show he's over a million.

No, his initial power is already over a million.

 

[Goku9001]

My question is why Initial Final Form Frieza needs to be 3x 3rd Form Frieza.

 

[Yoshi]

My question is why Initial Final Form Frieza needs to be 3x 3rd Form Frieza.

I agree. You can still make your previous forms look gentle in comparison if you're x2 stronger than your last form.

 

[FeatsofPower]

My question is why Initial Final Form Frieza needs to be 3x 3rd Form Frieza.

I have Freeza doubling in power.

 

[FeatsofPower]

But anywhere from 1.5-4x is reasonable for Freeza. It’s a gigantic power up.

 

[Kyo]

1.5x is good even though my preference is higher, but that's like the bare minimum.

 

[Yoshi]

I think x4 is too high. x3 is the maximum amount for me personally. Freeza can easily be double or triple the battle power that Piccolo stood no chance against and that Piccolo said made his previous forms look gentle in comparison to.

I still use the 3 million number in my battle powers, however. Nothing we are given in the Saiyan and Freeza Sagas and the Daiz numbers for the Late Freeza Saga are unworkable except for numbers like The Farmer being 5 and Roshi being 139.

 

[FeatsofPower]

I still use the 3 million number in my battle powers, however. Nothing we are given in the Saiyan and Freeza Sagas and the Daiz numbers for the Late Freeza Saga are unworkable except for numbers like The Farmer being 5 and Roshi being 139.

I’ll always disagree with this. The 3 million number is as unworkable as any of the BoZ numbers.