Fight Hierarchy

[p123]

Thanks. Yea, this is something that should have been done a long time ago. This essentially gives every power level list a real backbone. Also, it gives the critics of said power level list a whole bunch of ammo.
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For example, "Well Withheld, you did a great list, but you have Fights C,M,T out of order. Clearly, Fight C comes after Fight B and before Fight D according to the list, please update your list, because you are factually wrong. Thanks."

Something of that nature. We have been going about things blind, we need a list. Some things will always be debatable, but we can probably get an 80% standard, that would be very, very useful.

 

[p123]

We are going to make this forum great again, we have the best posters, don't we!

 

[SSJ2]

Without a doubt son.

 

[ahill1]

There are cases though that I feel the fight doesn't portray the gap so well. Look at Vegeta ssj vs Android #19 for example:

Vegeta can't fully tank #19, getting sent back a few steps and bleeding. Gohan ssj2 vs Perfect Cell for example is a better tank. Yet, the gap between Vegeta ssj and #19 should be completely monstruous, based on the implied chain of Vegeta ssj >> Piccolo >> #20 post >> #20 pre >= #19 post.

Sometimes the fight doesn't say it all, and we might also go with what it's said, implied.

 

[p123]

There is a balance there that needs to be acquired.

Vegeta vs Monster Zarbon ( Round 1 ) is a perfect example. Vegeta looks competitive enough, yet he is unconscious very quickly. How do we deal with that?

What suggests that 19 Post is not > 20 Post?

 

[Pyro]

Chode
Yamcha vs. Saibaman
Goku vs. Nappa (Round 2)
Goku (Kaio-ken x3) vs. Vegeta (Galick Gun)
Goku vs. 4th Form Freeza (warm-up)
Android #17 vs. Piccolo (w/Kami)
Android #16 vs. Imperfect Cell (post-humans)
SSj Goku vs. Perfect Cell (post-Kamehameha)
SSj Vegeta, SSj Trunks vs. Cell Juniors
SSj2 Gohan vs. Super Perfect Cell
SSj Goten vs. SSj Kid Trunks
SSj Gohan vs. Dabura
SSj2 Goku vs. SSj2 Majin Vegeta
SSj3 Goku vs. Pure Boo

Half Chub
Goku vs. Nappa (Round 1)
Vegeta vs. Zarbon (both rounds)
Vegeta vs. 1st Form Freeza
Goku vs. 4th Form Freeza (no hands)
SSj Goku vs. 100% Freeza
SSj Goku (Yardrat) vs. SSj Trunks (initial)
Ash vs. Evil Dead
SSj Goku vs. Perfect Cell
SSj Gohan vs. Perfect Cell (regular or increased speed)
Piccolo (post-RoSaT) vs. Cell Junior
SSj Gohan vs. SSj Goten (round 2)
Goten, Trunks vs. Android #18
Goku vs. Yakon
Kylo Ren vs. Rey
SSj3 Goku vs. Fat Boo
SSj3 Gotenks vs. Evil Boo

Crooked Crowbar
Vegeta vs. Recoome
Piccolo (w/Nail) vs. 2nd Form Freeza (powered up)
Piccolo (w/Nail) vs. 3rd Form Freeza
SSj Vegeta vs. Android #19
SSj Vegeta vs. Android #18
Piccolo vs. Android #20
Piccolo (w/Kami) vs. Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town)
SSjG2 Vegeta vs. 2nd Stage Cell
Kylo Ren vs. Finn
SSj Gohan vs. SSj Goten (round 1)
SSj2 Gohan vs. Power Weighted Cell
Fantastic Gohan vs. Evil Boo
Fantastic Gohan vs. Evil Boo (w/Gotenks)

Full Trombone
Piccolo, Goku vs. Raditz
Chaozu, Tenshinhan vs. Nappa
Gohan, Krillin, Piccolo vs. Nappa
Goku (Kaio-ken x2) vs. Vegeta
Goku (Kaio-ken x4) vs. Vegeta
Goku vs. Oozaru Vegeta
Vegeta vs. Kui
Vegeta vs. Dodoria
Nail vs. 1st Form Freeza
Vegeta vs. 4th Form Freeza
SSj Goku vs. Android #19
Piccolo, Android #17 vs. Imperfect Cell (post-humans)
Android #16 vs. 2nd Stage Cell
SSjG2 Vegeta vs. Perfect Cell
SSjG3 Trunks vs. Perfect Cell
MSSj Goku, humans vs. Cell Juniors
SSj2 Gohan vs. Perfect Cell
Base Gotenks (pre-RoSaT) vs. Fat Boo
Good Boo vs. Wrath Boo
Base Gotenks (post-RoSaT) vs. Evil Boo
SSj Gotenks (post-RoSaT) vs. Evil Boo
SSj Vegetto vs. Evil Boo (w/Gohan)
SSj2 Vegeta vs. Pure Boo
Good Boo vs. Pure Boo
Base Vegeta vs. Pure Boo

 

[Kyo]

Even at first, then Goku tries to superspeed and Tien wrecks him then Goku pulls out his full power and wrecks Tien?

I guess if you wanna split it up like that, then sure.

Half Chub
Kylo Ren vs. Rey

Man, he was kind of a bitch huh?

 

[ahill1]

Kuririn vs Chaozu - should we put it on Advantage or It's a Slobberknocker?

 

[p123]

Well for me personally, I think slobberknocker can include a slight advantage, it's a good close, competitive fight. Doesn't have to be exact equals.

Imo, Chaozu vs Krillen is a slobberknocker. They are basically equals.