FP Mecha Freeza vs Future 17 (Less than Half)

[p123]

Who wins?

Mecha Freeza's power is most likely unseen. He didn't have time to power up and nothing suggests he did.

Also, for Future 17, this is the power he used to beat up Gohan badly in which he lost his arm. A year later, Gohan is now strong enough to think he can take on not one, but two of the androids and possibly win. Future Gohan at this level is almost on par with the Trunks that defeated Cold and Freeza.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

I think Frieza was at full power and his machinery helped him control his full power. Complete headcanon, but it explains why he never even tried to power up. I have a 40% advantage to curbstomp and I do think Trunks had that advantage over Frieza. I'd say that Frieza is at the most equal to 40% 17 and probably a bit below him. He'd lose either way due to 17's infinite stamina.

 

[p123]

Would like to get some more votes on this shit.

 

[SSJ2]

I've got Future 17 taking this. I'm pretty stoned right now so I don't recall why.

 

[ahill1]

Future #17 less than half takes this imo. Not a strong reason, but I feel tye new villain, even if suppressed, should still be stronger than the last one. Like with old Piccolo Daimao, who hadn't used even half of his power yet was way stronger than anything Goku had faced. Not that #17 less than half must be >>> FP Mecha Freeza, but still.

If we consider Vegeta was a SSJ in the future, then it's probably that he was beaten by less than half #17 too, and Vegeta should be at least as strong as Namek Goku imo. But that's still speculation.

 

[Keedounan]

Future 17 stomps. Yardrat Goku killed Mecha Freeza and King Cold in the alternate timeline. If even Future Gohan and Future Trunks (pre-Android arc) couldn't beat Future 17 (less than 50 %), I doubt that Yardrat Goku could either.

 

[p123]

Future 17 > Ssj Gohan > Ssj Vegeta > Cyborg Freeza

It makes sense.

 

[ahill1]

Future 17 stomps. Yardrat Goku killed Mecha Freeza and King Cold in the alternate timeline. If even Future Gohan and Future Trunks (pre-Android arc) couldn't beat Future 17 (less than 50 %), I doubt that Yardrat Goku could either.

Only future Gohan [2 arms] couldn't beat [less than half] #17. [1 arm] future Gohan and future Trunks [Mecha saga] could already deal with that power, but not with full power #17.

 

[Keedounan]

Future 17 stomps. Yardrat Goku killed Mecha Freeza and King Cold in the alternate timeline. If even Future Gohan and Future Trunks (pre-Android arc) couldn't beat Future 17 (less than 50 %), I doubt that Yardrat Goku could either.

Only future Gohan [2 arms] couldn't beat [less than half] #17. [1 arm] future Gohan and future Trunks [Mecha saga] could already deal with that power, but not with full power #17.

Then, that would place Yardrat Goku equal or a bit higher than 17 (50 %). Still, I don't think Mecha Freeza can win this fight.

 

[ahill1]

Future 17 stomps. Yardrat Goku killed Mecha Freeza and King Cold in the alternate timeline. If even Future Gohan and Future Trunks (pre-Android arc) couldn't beat Future 17 (less than 50 %), I doubt that Yardrat Goku could either.

Only future Gohan [2 arms] couldn't beat [less than half] #17. [1 arm] future Gohan and future Trunks [Mecha saga] could already deal with that power, but not with full power #17.

Then, that would place Yardrat Goku equal or a bit higher than 17 (50 %). Still, I don't think Mecha Freeza can win this fight.

What we know:

Goku [post Yardrat] > Trunks [mecha saga] > Gohan [1 arm] >/>> future #17 [less than half]

I think it's quite possible 1 arm Gohan is already equal to half of future #17, which would place post Yardrat Goku at like 60% or more, imo.

 

[Pakl]

Trunks being stronger than Gohan is not certain. I think Trunks is a little stronger

 

[Six Trails]

Trunks being stronger than Gohan is not certain. I think Trunks is a little stronger

Why is it not certain? It's stated.

 

[Pakl]

Trunks being stronger than Gohan is not certain. I think Trunks is a little stronger

Why is it not certain? It's stated.

Where?

 

[Six Trails]

Trunks being stronger than Gohan is not certain. I think Trunks is a little stronger

Why is it not certain? It's stated.

Where?

Bulma says Trunks is "not much stronger than Gohan was" or something to that affect when Trunks goes to challenge the androids. Trunks would also have to be stronger than Gohan to think he could beat the androids.

 

[Pakl]

Bulma doesnt know about their power and she said Trunks is not that different.. That can mean Trunks is the same or not much stronger... Trunks also never saw Gohan in action... I also think Trunks is a little bit stronger but its not stated

 

[Pyro]

It is stated. You choose not to accept it because it isn't from a known ki sensor.

 

[SSJ2]

Which is irrelevant because it isn't contradicted.

 

[Pakl]

It is not stated... Bulma just says that because Trunks is SSjin and looks the same as Gohan

 

[p123]

Trunks says he can take on the Androids. Bulma says he's not amazingly different. Which admits he is different, but not amazingly so.

Trunks > Gohan, but not amazingly so. Got it?

 

[ahill1]

All the gaps

Freeza [100%] : 94
Goku SSJ [Namek] : 100
Mecha Freeza [100%] : 105
Future #17 [36%] : 110
Future Gohan SSJ [1 arm] : 135
Android #19 [pre] : 135
Future Trunks SSJ [mecha saga] : 150
Android #20 [pre] : 155
Goku SSJ [Yardrat] : 165
Android #19 [post] : 170
Goku SSJ sick : 180
Android #20 [post] : 190
Piccolo [androids saga] : 225
Trunks SSJ [androids saga] : 260
Goku SSJ [androids saga] : 290
Vegeta SSJ [androids saga] : 300
Android #18 [future] : 300
Android #17 [future] : 300
Android #18 [present] : 400
Android #17 [present] : 450

Fair or not?