Freeza fight fill in

[SSJ2]

His Ki was only noted to drop after Kaioken x20.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

His Ki was only noted to drop after Kaioken x20.

Rapidly dropping.

Why didn't it drop when he was using Kaio-Ken x10? I think it most likely just means a rapid, almost to zero, drop.

 

[SSJ2]

Because he said he could handle the Kaioken x10 after the training, so I imagine he could use it like he could use x2 prior.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Because he said he could handle the Kaioken x10 after the training, so I imagine he could use it like he could use x2 prior.

It'd still strain him to an extent though. No-one can keep at full-power forever, especially a technique like Kaio-Ken.

 

[SSJ2]

To be fair, it looked like he only used the x10 several times.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

To be fair, it looked like he only used the x10 several times.

Yeah he might have used it in short-bursts.

 

[SSJ2]

Have you read the full colour take on it?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Have you read the full colour take on it?

Nah, I heard something about it though. Simething something revealing Kaio-Ken something.

 

[SSJ2]

?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

?

Something about debunking invisible Kaio-Ken theory.

 

[SSJ2]

Oh, yea. But all I'm trying to say is in FC he doesn't use Kaioken 10 much. I don't think he'd be too strained considering he said he could handle it.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Oh, yea. But all I'm trying to say is in FC he doesn't use Kaioken 10 much. I don't think he'd be too strained considering he said he could handle it.

I see.

 

[SIAD]

Freeza (2nd form): 1,060,000
~ Powered up: 1,250,000
~ Full Power: 1,500,000

Piccolo (Weighted): 1,300,000
~ Full Power: 1,700,000

Freeza (3rd form): 2,400,000

Vegeta (Final Zenkai): 3,100,000
~ Planet Buster:

Freeza (True Form): 3,000,000
~ Tooling Vegeta: 4,000,000
~ Kicking Vegeta's blast: 5,000,000
~ Underestimating Goku: 5,000,000
~ Warming up vs Goku: 6,000,000
~ No hands: 9,600,000
~ 50% Power:237,500,000
~ 70% Power: 332,500,000
~ 100% Power: 475,000,000

Goku (Initial): 6,000,000
~ Full Power: 10,000,000
~ Kaioken x10: 100,000,000
~ Kaioken x20: 200,000,000
~ Kaioken Kamehameha x20: ?
~ Super Saiyan: 500,000,000

Excellent.

 

[GSM123]

Excellent.

So you would have the same numbers as SSJ2?

 

[SIAD]

Excellent.

So you would have the same numbers as SSJ2?

I do not have numbers, but I would have them in a very similar way and I have them in the same order from the least powerful to the most powerful.

 

[SSJ2]

Do you guys think I have unweighted Piccolo too high compared to FP 2nd Freeza?

 

[GSM123]

Yes. I don't think Piccolo could've stomped 2nd form Freeza.

 

[SSJ2]

Considering Piccolo being confident in his speed against a much powered up Freeza, I don't see a problem with that gap. Piccolo thought his speed could give him the edge in that fight vs 3rd Freeza, I think if he was only marginally stronger than FP 2nd Freeza he would have no basis for that confidence.

 

[p123]

No hands Freeza is definitely superior to Goku. It's not tremendous, but he's superior. If they were even, he wouldn't even be able to attempt to fight with no hands.

 

[Victorious]

No hands Free a had a higher battle power but he's less effective than Goku.