Freeza-Mecha Freeza BP Experiment

[Future Warrior]

Now about Future Vegeta, does you guys think he was a SS? Trunks not being surprised at him achieving the transformation kinda warrants it. And how much of an increase would he get from Mecha Freeza's arrival to when the Cyborgs kill him?

 

[Void]

I would've assumed he was training to become a Super Saiyan and surpass Goku before he died. Maybe Goku's death killed his drive for getting stronger? I don't think he should be stronger than 1 arm Gohan.

 

[freezamite]

Now about Future Vegeta, does you guys think he was a SS? Trunks not being surprised at him achieving the transformation kinda warrants it. And how much of an increase would he get from Mecha Freeza's arrival to when the Cyborgs kill him?

He never became a SSJ in the future. Firstly, future Trunks himself is the proof that Vegeta was never a SSJ. Future Trunks is clearly a saiyan born from non SSJ fathers (that means that he had to learn to transform the hard way, which is proved by the fact that he isn't a full power SSJ, unlike present Trunks or Goten).
Then we have Vegeta's strength in the present. Future androids are weaker than the ones in the present timeline, and Trunks could fight them at their same level. Vegeta's strength as a SSJ is much higher and would've been able to defeat those androids (in fact, there's a timeline where future Trunks defeats the androids before coming back to the present -the one Cell kills Trunks to get his time travel machine).

 

[phill1123]

Doesn't Cell say that Trunks shut them down in that timeline? He seemed to think the Trunks he killed could not have beaten 17 and 18.

 

[p123]

The anime has Vegeta without Super Saiyan.

 

[phill1123]

What bro? Vegeta is shown fighting No.17 as a Super Saiyan in the Trunks anime special. Aren't you supposed to be a god? Get it together.

 

[freezamite]

Doesn't Cell say that Trunks shut them down in that timeline? He seemed to think the Trunks he killed could not have beaten 17 and 18.

No, he says 17 and 18 weren't there and assumes Trunks defeated them, but he isn't sure about that either (although he was probably right since we know that the future androids were weaker and Trunks could put up a good fight against them).
Since Trunks knew absolutely nothing about Guero's underground laboratory it's impossible that he could've found the android's diagrams in the future, so he had to kill them with his own strength.

 

[p123]

Indeed my son. You speak of the special. I spoke of the anime. Have you not learned the difference?

 

[freezamite]

Indeed my son. You speak of the special. I spoke of the anime. Have you not learned the difference?

Hahahaha poor p123, trying to do an "Evil Vegeta" to not admit being wrong even after being clearly owned. In the anime special Vegeta was shown being killed as a SSJ, but in the manga special chapter he wasn't shown at all (much less as a SSJ).
And in the anime... I don't remember seeing any scene of SSJ Vegeta being killed by the future androis, care to point what chapter are you speaking of?

 

[ahill1]

p123 is talking about da special made by Toei. He considers it Canon, not the manga special.

 

[p123]

Meh, I might be going against that. I forget why, but I did. But that's not relevant here. Anime filler has Vegeta dying in Base.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Cause why not.

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