Frieza 100% (Namek)> = Zamasu = Kibito?

[SIAD]

In Chapter 16 of the Manga, is suggest that this level Zamasu Kibito and the first, I just went ahead thanks to his skills as a fighter. This is Frieza 100% (voltage).

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

But Zamasu was kicking his ass right?

 

[Papasmurf]

That's SSjin 3 Future Kibito to you.

 

[Tapion]

SSjin3 Kibito >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSj3 Kibito

 

[SIAD]

I'm thinking Kibito and Kaioshin (Post Merger) Kibitoshin powers were divided. Thus:

Kibitoshin = 2
Kaioshin = 1
Kibito = 1

Therefore Kibito (DBS) is >>>>>>>>> Frieza 100% (Namek).

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

 

[SIAD]

These are Kibito (Pre Fusion) and Future Kibito.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

Didn't Goku say the U7 Kaioshin wouldn't stand a chance against Zamas?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

These are Kibito (Pre Fusion) and Future Kibito.

Yup and their fate are sealed.

 

[ahill]

Didn't Goku say the U7 Kaioshin wouldn't stand a chance against Zamas?

That's anime only.

Anyway, cannot Kibito be >>> Freeza?

 

[Jerk Store]

The anime is canon, you should know that by now, it's been said a million times on here and Neo.

 

[SIAD]

Personally I go with:

Kibitoshin = Kaioshin + Kibito (Post Merger) >> Zamasu (Manga)> Kaioshin (Post Merger) = Kibito (Post Merger) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaioshin (Pre Merger) >>>> Frieza 100% (Namek)> Kibito (Pre Merger).

 

[ahill]

The anime is canon, you should know that by now, it's been said a million times on here and Neo.

I know, but @SIAD is talking specifically about the manga.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The anime is canon, you should know that by now, it's been said a million times on here and Neo.

How is the anime canon? Both the anime and the manga were given the same out-lines by AT and whatever is added is not by AT.

 

[Jerk Store]

The anime is the only medium that AT is in majority control of, the manga, not at all. The manga follows the anime and adds/changes their own things to it. This is old news, so no need for me to post a long drawn out explanation.

Toei adds a few things in the anime here and there, but Toriyama is still in majority control. He says what goes and what doesn't in the end. Basically the exact opposite of the original 13 movies and such. So it is still canon where as the manga is not and is headed by someone else.

I personally don't consider Super to be canon to Z and the original series, but as far as Super itself goes, the anime is canon over the manga and by all technicalities, the super anime is a canon continuation of Z, but too many contradictions and retcons and shit make me not personally see it as that.

Like, as far as Z Buu arc goes, base Saiyajins > Freeza, that is pretty clear cut..... But in Super.. .... Yeeeah....

 

[Fantastische Hure]

From what I understand and this is what I heard, is that AT is just giving both of them (Toei and the mangaka) out-lines and whatever differs is just stuff they added.

Even AT has talked about how the anime series was trash, or at-least disappointed.

 

[ahill]

@Drock - Like I said, I know it already, but this topic is focused in the manga and that's what @SIAD is referring to.

 

[Papasmurf]

AT only said that during the first arc (where there was that infamous episode 5 animation disaster), I believe. He actively participated in giving each episode an outline during the Future Trunks arc and maybe the arcs before that as well, although he left some minor details up to Toei

 

[Fantastische Hure]

AT only said that during the first arc (where there was that infamous episode 5 animation disaster), I believe. He actively participated in giving each episode an outline during the Future Trunks arc and maybe the arcs before that as well, although he left some minor details up to Toei

That's kewl then.

Do you have a source for it though. Not that I can't believe. I just haven't found an interview or so where I heard that.

 

[Papasmurf]

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

"Like last time" seems to imply he did a similar thing with the previous arc (though I dunno about the Bog/FnF arcs), so yeah he worked on the series.

Just like Toriyama to not even check the final script though....