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Who wins?
Giant Lord Slug vs 3rd Form Freeza
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Giant was also said to be perhaps higher than SSJ Goku so Giant > Movie 4 SSJ Goku seems clear at-least.
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Slug stomps.
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I think that version of Goku is as strong as his Ginyu arc counterpart. Slug was said to be stronger than Freeza (who didn't revealed his other forms at the time iirc) so Freeza wins IMO.
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That part has always bothered me. The highest power Freeza showed at that point was his 2nd form. However, the preview of episode 82 which was before the kovie release shows Freeza in his 3rd form, so either Slug is > 2nd form Freeza or > 3rd Form Freeza. The former seems to make more sense.
The movie was revealed just before Piccolo went all out vs 2nd form Freeza so it makes sense that Slug was intended to be as strong as Nailccolo.
Anyway, Slug is at best above 3rd form Freeza. Initial final form Freeza wrecks him.
The movie was revealed just before Piccolo went all out vs 2nd form Freeza so it makes sense that Slug was intended to be as strong as Nailccolo.
Anyway, Slug is at best above 3rd form Freeza. Initial final form Freeza wrecks him.
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I saw an episode-preview/movie promotion that had the episode where Freeza transformed to 3rd form. It could be after the movie premiered but whilst it still was running in theatres but who knows.
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So why would he only be higher than 2nd Form? The movie's hype is what sells it. Lord Slug being on-par with next villain (form) that appears sells it.
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Fantastische Hure said:
The thing is that while we see 3rd form Freeza in the preview. It's not shown how strong he was in comparasion to Piccolo or his strength overall.
Here is the preview for episode 82
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikm36tSkcM8
Here is the shortened preview plus Movie 4 preview.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GdaYPTDpgic
It's a pronlem because at that point power levels were the issue and we also have a guidebook of Goku using Kaioken x100. I think it was not the real multiplier of the movie. It deoends when this guidebook was made. Anyway. Slug is at best a little stronger than 3rd form Freeza IMO.
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The narration in the back-ground and title say it all. Besides there was the manga as-well if it wasn't obvious enough. The guide-book obviously came after the movie l0l...or did it? Now that I think about it maybe not.
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Fantastische Hure said:
What narration?
The manga has nothing to do with the movies time lines. The movies are TV Anime based. That's also stated. Movies are related to the anime.
I am talking about how long after the movie was this guidebook release? It's possible it says 100x because it was made after Toriyama established that SSjin is a 50x boost so it might not be the same when the movie was released.
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It doesn't matter whether the manga has nothing to do with the movie. The fact that Freeza's 3rd form was revealed in the preview is enough for the people to deduce as much. Goku's narration in the back-ground of the preview. He said something about speed, probably referring to Piccolo's speed being out of Freeza's league.
That doesn't matter either. Either-way it fits.
That doesn't matter either. Either-way it fits.
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Fantastische Hure said:
I know but it's possible that Giant Slug is as strong as Nailccolo as the movie was revealed just before Piccolo forced Freeza to transform into his 3rd form. Though, it's also possible that he is stronger than 3rd form Freeza. It's tough to say. However, it was not known how strong was 3rd form Freeza or even FP Piccolo so again, its a mess.
You know what's funny? The preview of episode 177 just before M8 release didnnt even spoil us Gokus power up vs C3ll but only their warm up fight.
Yet, a minority spouts that M8 is as strong as he was when he went all out vs Cell. Laughable.
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I say the same thing. There's nothing wrong with it. Your opinion isn't above all.
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Fantastische Hure said:
No matter how concrete my evidence may be, you (and a small minority) are just going to call it an opinion.
No it's not my opinion. It's what the movie itself shows and what the time line of the movie was. You just said Slug being higher than 3rd form Freeza is possible because the preview shows him, yet whwn I tell you TOEI didn't even show Goku powering up vs Cell in the preview of episode 177 probably to not spoil us is suddenly an opinion. Why people do it only when it comes to Broli is beyond me. SMH.
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Takao Koyama says otherwise and no amount of you showing these pieces of "concrete evidence" can change that.
...and I forgot you calling the old meng a fan-boy won't help either.
...and I forgot you calling the old meng a fan-boy won't help either.
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He said Broly is the strongest. He created all movie villains so this should at-least hold true for the original 13 toei movies.
