Goku Black Base (Vs Future Trunks / Manga) >>> Future Trunks SSJ2 "Improved"?

[SIAD]

I started thinking about the following, when we see Goku Black Base crushing Future Tunks, this last one was an SSJ2 "Improved"? If so, Goku Black Base (Vs Future Trunks) >>> Goku SSJ3 (Vs Future Trunks)> = Future Trunks SSJ2 "Improved".

  What do you think?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I doubt it. Vegeta only stated that Trunks' full power would be no match for Black after he went SSJ, implying if Base Black > Improved SS2 Trunks, it would be by a minimal amount. Considering the stamina drain of SS3 and Trunks enhancing his SS2 form to such an extent, I believe his enhancement can't be used freely in battle. Most likely, it's similar to taxing amplified Ki attacks such as the Makankosappo or Final Flash.

 

[Papasmurf]

Trunks was enraged upon Mai's supposed death, so I doubt he held back any power when he attacked Black. I do agree his full power SSJ2 is most likely taxing though.

 

[SIAD]

I doubt it. Vegeta only stated that Trunks' full power would be no match for Black after he went SSJ, implying if Base Black > Improved SS2 Trunks, it would be by a minimal amount. Considering the stamina drain of SS3 and Trunks enhancing his SS2 form to such an extent, I believe his enhancement can't be used freely in battle. Most likely, it's similar to taxing amplified Ki attacks such as the Makankosappo or Final Flash.

But is there a possibility that Future Trunks was strengthened in his training with Vegeta in the Past?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Possibly, but unlikely, since there's little reason to increase the gap between SS2 Vegeta and SS3 Goku beyond what's implied, especially in that short timeframe.

 

[SIAD]

Possibly, but unlikely, since there's little reason to increase the gap between SS2 Vegeta and SS3 Goku beyond what's implied, especially in that short timeframe.

I thought that maybe future Trunks when training with Vegeta, Future Trunks strengthened their Base / SSJ / SSJ2 / SSJ2 "Improved" forms, since on returning to the Future, I think about facing Goku Black again, despite being much lower than East. For while Vegeta improved considerably his SSJ2.

@Captain Cadaver I can ask you a favor, give me the levels of Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks in all their forms, assuming that Goku base (Vs Future Trunks) is 1.

  Also if you can give me your numbers of Goku Black Base and SSJ (Vs Future Trunks and Vegeta).

I have something like this:

Goku Black Base (Vs Future Trunks) = 1,200
SSJ = 2,400

Goku Base (Vs Future Trunks) = 1
SSJ = 50
SSJ2 = 200
SSJ3 = 800
SSJG = 25,000
SSJB = 62,500

Future Trunks Base (Vs Goku) = 1.001
SSJ = 50.05
SSJ2 = 200.2
SSJ2 "Improved" = 782.03125


In the future:

Future Trunks Base (Vs Goku) = 2.56
SSJ = 128
SSJ2 = 512
SSJ2 "Improved" = 2,000

Goku Black Base (Vs Vegeta) = 1,350
SSJ = 5,400
SSJ (Post Zenkai) = 67,500
SSJR = 135,000

Vegeta Base (Vs Goku Black) = 1
SSJ = 50
SSJ2 = 6,400
SSJB = 62,500

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

The manga version?

 

[SIAD]

Yes.

 

[Void]

Toyotaro dun goofed, unless Vegeta and Trunks really made YUGE gains in their training session. Perhaps Trunks showed him how to use FP SS2 or whatever.