Goku's SS2 burst.

[Future Warrior]

How strong was Goku when he did this? Stronger than Vegeta, or perhaps weaker?

 

[Papasmurf]

Equal to SPC imo

 

[Diamond Ryan]

I have it around his strength. It was enough for Vegeta to tell that he wouldn't stand a chance against Goku with both going all out. It should be weaker than Kid Gohan though, as Vegeta only confirmed Goku was stronger than Gohan once he felt his power in full. So:

Goku > Kid Gohan > Goku (burst) ~ Vegeta is how I think of it

 

[SSJ2]

Vegeta knew Goku was holding back?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Damn it, i wanted to do the 1st reply.

Anyway, Vegeta decided he should have a power up from Babidi when he saw it, but it's only when Goku goes full power he notices Goku is > Gohan. So Kid Gohan > Goku (Burst) > Vegeta.

 

[Goku9001]

I have it equivalent to SSJ2 Goku's full power. The only reason why Vegeta didn't compare it to Gohan was because it was a quick, sudden burst of power.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

At the very most, as strong or slightly stronger than SS2 Vegeta. At the very least, strong enough to be relevant enough to SS2 Vegeta and have him estimate how superior Galu was based on how strong a burst was.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Burst Goku is at least weaker than SSjin2 Adult Gohan IMO.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Burst Goku is at least weaker than SSjin2 Adult Gohan IMO.

I'd disagree on that. Even if it's just a burst of his power, Vegeta knows Goku can still show close to his full power through a burst (eg. VS Ginyu Tokusentai), whereas he found SS2 Gohan's power against Kibito to be a complete embaressment overall. Burst Galu would still have to be above this Gohan be a sizeable amount at bare minimum.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Burst Goku is at least weaker than SSjin2 Adult Gohan IMO.

I'd disagree on that. Even if it's just a burst of his power, Vegeta knows Goku can still show close to his full power through a burst (eg. VS Ginyu Tokusentai), whereas he found SS2 Gohan's power against Kibito to be a complete embaressment overall. Burst Galu would still have to be above this Gohan be a sizeable amount at bare minimum.

It's not about Vegeta, but Gohan. Gohan should notice that Goku's burst > his power, don't you think?

 

[Kyo]

Why would he care

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It's not about Vegeta, but Gohan. Gohan should notice that Goku's burst > his power, don't you think?

Gohan's fighting skills were completely dulled at this point. Considering someone far more battle hardened at the time as Trunks was still too inexperienced to grasp things such as Grade 3's weakness or the point of MSSJ until the info was exposited to him, whereas Vegeta picked up on both immediately, Gohan's lack of a reaction means nothing.

 

[Goku9001]

Burst Goku is at least weaker than SSjin2 Adult Gohan IMO.

Gohan was explicitly stated to be weaker than Vegeta at the Budokai and we're told that it's because Gohan cannot get angry like he could before, thus, cannot release his full potential. I do agree that SSJ2 Gohan, if he could get angry like he could 7 years ago, would be above Vegeta and potentially SSJ2 Goku as well if Goku's sentiment of "Gohan being able to defeat anybody" is anything to go by.

 

[Void]

The burst is at least as strong as SS2 Vegeta. It's enough to make him submit to Babidi, but when Goku fully transforms into SS2 it leaves Vegeta saying "Just as I expected." So Vegeta most likely knew Goku was > CG Gohan when the former killed Yakon.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Super Saiyan 2 Goku's Burst=Stronger than Teen Gohan. Vegeta said they're both stronger than Gohan now. As for Vegeta, I like to have him inferior to the burst. Bobbidi's spell unleashed Vegeta's dormant powers beyond its limits. I think it's more worthwhile if Vegeta is that far behind Goku.

Super Saiyan 2 Goku's Full-Power=Stronger than Kid Gohan.

So we know there was a difference between the powers.

 

[Pyro]

Super Saiyan 2 Goku's Burst=Stronger than Teen Gohan. Vegeta said they're both stronger than Gohan now. As for Vegeta, I like to have him inferior to the burst. Bobbidi's spell unleashed Vegeta's dormant powers beyond its limits. I think it's more worthwhile if Vegeta is that far behind Goku.

Super Saiyan 2 Goku's Full-Power=Stronger than Kid Gohan.

So we know there was a difference between the powers.

But, wouldn't Vegeta's assumption of Goku's full power be what he's referring to when he says they're both stronger than Gohan now?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I guess it comes down to how you take the statement. Vegeta knows Goku has more in the tank, but I don't think that alone would prevent the possibility of the burst already being superior to Teen Gohan. Gohan seemed to react to the power in an excited way and Kaioshin (which can be ignored, tbh) looked more shocked than ever after Goku blew Yakon to pieces. In fact, that seemed to be the moment when he realized how outclassed he was.

I think the mention of Goku surpassing Kid Gohan was more of an expected thing, whereas Goku was already superior to Teen Gohan the moment he showed his Super Saiyan 2 against Yakon.

Of course it wouldn't be invalid to say Vegeta's statement is already based on what he's expecting from Goku's full-power. I just think "we're both stronger than he is now" would be about the current standings (Vegeta's perspective based on his own power and what he already knows of Goku) rather than where he's estimating Goku will end up. It can honestly go either way.

 

[ahill1]

I think the three of them, kid Gohan SSJ2, pre Majin Vegeta SSJ2 and Goku's SSJ2 are all in the same realm of power. If someone's is on top though, it's kid Gohan, considering Vegeta didn't say how Goku surpassed him until this latter displayed his full power.

Goku SSJ2 > kid Gohan SSJ2 ~ Goku SSJ2 burst ~ pre Majin Vegeta SSJ2 imo. Vegeta already knew Goku's burst wasn't his all, so Vegeta would need the Majin charm even if the burst wasn't already > him, imo.

 

[Pyro]

Yeah, Gohan's excitement and Kaioshin acknowledging his deep inferiority seals it for me. Those two wouldn't be wise like Vegeta to think Goku was holding back, so it makes sense. I forgot about that.

SSJ2 Goku >||> SSJ2 Kid Gohan > SSJ2 Goku (burst) >||= SSJ2 Vegeta >>||> SSJ2 Teen Gohan it is.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Funny how I attempted to disregard the Kaioshin part because I thought it might water down my point 2

Especially when it ended up making the most sense