Goku's SS2 burst.

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Evil Vegeta said:
Funny how I attempted to disregard the Kaioshin part because I thought it might water down my point :tapion2

Especially when it ended up making the most sense :tapion

Kaioshin waters down the whole arc, bruh.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Fearless 3:16 said:
Burst Goku is at least weaker than SSjin2 Adult Gohan IMO.
I'd disagree on that. Even if it's just a burst of his power, Vegeta knows Goku can still show close to his full power through a burst (eg. VS Ginyu Tokusentai), whereas he found SS2 Gohan's power against Kibito to be a complete embaressment overall. Burst Galu would still have to be above this Gohan be a sizeable amount at bare minimum.

Valid point, he couldn't even tell that Goku used SSjin2 against Yakon. Another bad writing from this saga. :troll

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Gohan indeed knew that Goku turn into SSjin2

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And I think that Gohan knew that Vegeta has SSjin2 as well since Vegeta pointed out that him and Goku are stronger than Gohan now.

Chapter: 452 (DBZ 258), P1.1-4
Goku: “Gohan, it’s your turn next, but have you trained properly?”
Vegeta: “Unfortunately, it seems he got carried away in peace and didn’t do any significant training. Our powers are higher than his now…Though I suppose there’s no telling what would happen if he snapped and went into a frenzy… ”
Kaioshin: “S-so that’s why these 3 have such composure...In a pinch, they can put forth tremendous power, like Son Goku displayed momentarily…”


With Goku and Gohan agree with Vegeta then it's possible that Gohan was SSjin2 against Dabura based on Goku and Vegeta's reaction to the fight. Damn, I'm still not sure though.
 

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Gohan sounded like he was just now realizing Goku and Vegeta were fighting at a level above normal Super Saiyan when he talked to Kaioshin, so I don't think he suspected they had Super Saiyan 2 beforehand. It's really sloppy writing because it makes all the characters look confident and retarded simultaneously.
 

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Pyro said:
Gohan sounded like he was just now realizing Goku and Vegeta were fighting at a level above normal Super Saiyan when he talked to Kaioshin, so I don't think he suspected they had Super Saiyan 2 beforehand. It's really sloppy writing because it makes all the characters look confident and retarded simultaneously.

Goku seemingly being shocked by Vegeta having SS2 just makes it worse. Especially when you take into account him holding back SS3.
 

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Gohan must've thought his dad surpassed him in Super Saiyan only or something.

This part is stupid, lol.
 

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Pyro said:
Gohan sounded like he was just now realizing Goku and Vegeta were fighting at a level above normal Super Saiyan when he talked to Kaioshin, so I don't think he suspected they had Super Saiyan 2 beforehand. It's really sloppy writing because it makes all the characters look confident and retarded simultaneously.

I think he does but he just didn't expect the spower of SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta being stronger than his CG counterpart since Goku told him that he's the strongest.

Let's not forget about this as well.

Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P4.2-3
Vegeta: “At that time there was a large gap between our powers…But what about now? While you’ve been enjoying peace, I’ve continued to train.”

Chapter: 452 (DBZ 258), P1.1-4
Goku: “Gohan, it’s your turn next, but have you trained properly?”
Vegeta: “Unfortunately, it seems he got carried away in peace and didn’t do any significant training. Our powers are higher than his now…Though I suppose there’s no telling what would happen if he snapped and went into a frenzy… ”
Kaioshin: “S-so that’s why these 3 have such composure...In a pinch, they can put forth tremendous power, like Son Goku displayed momentarily…”

Gohan needs to turn Enrage SSjin2 in order to surpass Goku/Vegeta.
 

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The only thing that left to support Gohan being SSjin against Dabura is the art style but the story clearly points it out on him being SSjin2.
 

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Fearless 3:16 said:
The only thing that left to support Gohan being SSjin against Dabura is the art style but the story clearly points it out on him being SSjin2.

Yeah I am starting to go with Gohan being SS2 against Dabura too. It also fits with Dabura's power against Future Trunks in the manga.
 

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Gohan was a completed SSJ2. By containing all of the SSJ2 form's excess electricity inside his body he nullified its behavioral effects allowing him to fight on equal footing with dabura
 

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Idea of Gaslight said:
Gohan was a completed SSJ2. By containing all of the SSJ2 form's excess electricity inside his body he nullified its behavioral effects allowing him to fight on equal footing with dabura

That would explain how Dabra was able to give post-Z sword SS2.5 Trunks so much trouble.
 

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Yeah, Goku realized enraged CSSJ2 Gohan would give his SSJ3 a run for his money when he saw him perform such an ungodly feat.
 
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