Gotenks and Goku

[xmysticgohanx]

Super is trash

Super > pre Z Dragon Ball

SSJ3 Goku > SSJ Gotenks pre > Fat Boo > base Gotenks post

I take it you only started believing this since Super came out, right?

If not, man up, and defend it as you would back then.

Before Super I had SSJ Gotenks pre > SSJ3 Goku > Fat Boo > base Gotenks post
Don't see why it matters when canon is canon
Direct feats > vague statements

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I still believe Gotenks is weaker than Goku.

 

[Pyro]

You fools have no semblance of sense with your ignorant claims.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I usually go with him surpassing Goku after the ROSAT. Before them putting them on the same level is fine too.

 

[Troyrountree]

Gotenks one shots SSJ3 Goku in Base

 

[Jeff Styles]

Gotenks surpasses Goku after his ROSAT training. Base Gotenks(post ROSAT)>SSJ3 Goku~SSJ Gotenks(pre ROSAT)>Fat Boo

 

[Six Trails]

Super > pre Z Dragon Ball

I'm genuinely curious as to why you say that. Explain what about Super makes it so good, please.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Because it supports Goku > Gohan and Gotenks argument.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Super > pre Z Dragon Ball

I'm genuinely curious as to why you say that. Explain what about Super makes it so good, please.

Idk I just enjoy it better. I've never liked pre-Z Dragonball (neither do most fans outside of the internet). The only cool parts were Goku meeting his grandpa, Taopaipai mini arc, 22nd Budokai, and 23rd Budokai. The rest was relatively boring. I actually enjoy Super a lot.

Because it supports Goku > Gohan and Gotenks argument.

Gohan is my favorite character