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Future Warrior said:
Why not assume Vegeta can use SS2 levels of power?

Because the only moment Dabura ever saw a SSJ2 was Goku's 1 second burst and he didn't even sense it.
 

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Once you actually find evidence implied by the story that Gohan was actually a SS1, then you'd have a solid argument.
There's no "then you'll have a solid argument"... the art makes it solid enough. Even if you don't agree with it and wishes to place more emphasis on the story, saying the SSJ1 supporters don't have solid argument is just wrong.


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"I can't get angry like I did back then,"
"Back then" as the CGs. Besides, ppl would just say he isn't referring to SSJ2 here, just to an angry state, which would be way more powerful than his ssj2 considering how pathetic it was treated in the Budokai, whereas Goku at least said there's no one Gohan can't beat if he gets enraged, and Vegeta being agnostic towards his standing against an enraged Gohan, which wouldn't make sense were it = his Budokai ssj2 self.
 

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There's also Gohan implying he hasn't put out his all in that blast he used on the cocoon when fatty awakens ("If I use my true power I can beat this guy," which also doesn't seem like a reference to rage either considering he said he can't get fully enraged 2 minutes ago)
 

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To those who think that Gohan was SSjin,

How will you interpret Vegeta's statement when he said that he and Goku are stronger than Gohan now which Goku agrees with Vegeta? Does that mean that both Goku and Vegeta are stronger than SSjin2 Gohan as a SSjin?
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Future Warrior said:
Why not assume Vegeta can use SS2 levels of power?

Because the only moment Dabura ever saw a SSJ2 was Goku's 1 second burst and he didn't even sense it.

That is if you don't believe he was fighting Gohan as a SS2 :bitch
 

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SSJ Goku vs Freeza breakdown and SSJ Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku added :et
 

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''It's stated multiplie times by Goku that Gotenks will be stronger than him:''

Yet, the statements are all about Gotenks > Boo which had nothing to do with Goku's strength since he lied about his power multiple times.

And other of your quotes from Strength Checkers confirmed Piccolo's expectations that Gotenks is stronger than Boo that's all.
 

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I simply choose to interpret the Daizenshuu numbers as Goku & Freeza's best under ideal conditions, not taking into account fatigue or battle damage. Goku gets quite a bit beaten up, uses the most stressful KK + Kamehameha combo he'll ever do then has to use the Spirit Bomb which we know tires him out even more. Freeza takes a fair bit of damage too and he admits to the Bomb almost managing to kill him.

That's why I think neither of them is at their best during the last act of the Namek fight. The Daizenshuu probably just ignores all these other factors and decided to give them their numbers at peak efficiency.
 

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