Hakaishins from weakest to strongest

[GreatSaiyaman123]

So...

UI Goku = Angel Moro = Merus > SSJBE Vegeta (Current) > LSSJ Broly >= Beerus >=< Moro (73 absorbed) >= Moro >= SSJBE Vegeta (Post Yardrat) > UIO Goku (Vs Moro) > UIO Goku (Vs Jiren)?

Left Jiren off because idk where to fit him exactly, other than below Beerus. Do you think Moro saying he has power rivaling the gods means he's Hakaishin Tier? And what about Goku saying he's the toughest guy he's ever fought?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

@GreatSaiyaman123 Rumoosh didn't knock aside Champa explicitly, but he was directly next to Geene when Rumoosh started his charge that paralysed them, so it'd seem inevitable he'd be caught in the crossfire. Also, he had an expression f complete shock from Rumoosh's roar, as opposed to Beerus and Quitela seeming more annoyed and disgruntled by the effect than completely shocked.

The gap between the top and bottom tier Hakaishin certainly isn't any Raditz to Vegeta type of thing. Looking back at it, a mediocre Hakaishin like Geene still seemed capable of scuffing up Champa a little, so the weaker Hakaishin should still be capable of dealing damage to those around the level of the top 5 if assuming that was purely from their scuffle.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Mosco beating Heles and Liquiir at once seems to imply a huge gap, but they might have been fatigued already + he's from Magetta's race, so he gets a bonus.

I imagine there should be a 1.33x gap between Hakaishins at best. Anything more and it becomes too big.

Quitela: 100
Beerus (No UI): 96
Rumoosh: 90
Mosco: 90
Champa: 90
Liquiir: 84 (Should be stronger than Heles for blocking her point blank shot)
Heles: 83.3
Belmond: 80
Iwan: 80
Sidra: 80
Gene: 75
Arak: 75

Jiren is probably a 90, 108 beyond limits. UI Goku is a 112.5.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Mosco beating Heles and Liquiir at once seems to imply a huge gap, but they might have been fatigued already + he's from Magetta's race, so he gets a bonus.

Assuming he did beat them. Quitela and Beerus were the only ones left by the end, so they could've taken him down after he grabbed them.

Liquiir: 84 (Should be stronger than Heles for blocking her point blank shot)

Wouldn't really call an arrow piercing clean through his arm a solid block.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Given the proximity it was quite a feat for him to have blocked it. She even praised his reflexes.

 

[SSJ2]

UI Goku = Angel Moro = Merus > SSJBE Vegeta (Current) > LSSJ Broly >= Beerus >=< Moro (73 absorbed) >= Moro >= SSJBE Vegeta (Post Yardrat) > UIO Goku (Vs Moro) > UIO Goku (Vs Jiren)?

 

[ベジータ]

So...

UI Goku = Angel Moro = Merus > SSJBE Vegeta (Current) > LSSJ Broly >= Beerus >=< Moro (73 absorbed) >= Moro >= SSJBE Vegeta (Post Yardrat) > UIO Goku (Vs Moro) > UIO Goku (Vs Jiren)?

Left Jiren off because idk where to fit him exactly, other than below Beerus. Do you think Moro saying he has power rivaling the gods means he's Hakaishin Tier? And what about Goku saying he's the toughest guy he's ever fought?

Goku and Vegeta were stated to be the strongest in the universe before the UI/Hakai training, so Current Vegeta is much stronger than Broly, probably as strong as Current UI Goku, who should already be much stronger than UI Moro, who definitely was much stronger than Jiren.

-Whis
-PSSB Gogeta
-Beerus / Quitela / SSB Vegetto
-UI Goku (Current) / SSBE Vegeta (Current) / Granola / Champa / Rumsshi / Mosco
-Planet Moro
-Merus / UI Goku (Moro Arc) / UI Moro
-FP Moro (+OG73)
-FP Moro
-SSBE Vegeta (Moro Arc)
-UI Omen Goku (Moro Arc) / FPSSJ Broly
-UI Goku (ToP) / LB Jiren
-FP Jiren
-Belmod / Liquiir / Helles / Sidra / Gene / Arak / Iwan

 

[SSJ2]

Beerus has been a destroyer for millions of years while Belmod is relatively new to the job as far as I recall.

Where was the millions of years stated? Belmod has been a GoD for 240,000 years.

 

[Pyro]

Where was the millions of years stated? Belmod has been a GoD for 240,000 years.

Elder Kaioshin was sealed by Beerus, which happened around 75 million years ago according to Daizenshuu 7.

 

[SSJ2]

True. Interesting that Belmod is ready to retire after 240k years.

 

[Pyro]

Dude's a bitch. Couldn't even hit 1 million. East Kaioshin's been on the job longer than that.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I think he's around Vegeta's level. Moro was more serious against Vegeta from the start and wasn't able to do any significant damage before Spirit Fission kicked in.

How did 7-3 Moro tank and two shot SSJBE Vegeta then? All he did was add his peak power stored within 7-3 on top of his very small old power.

 

[Pyro]

Makes one wonder when Moro gave Seven-Three his power.

 

[SIAD]

@GreatSaiyaman123 Rumoosh didn't knock aside Champa explicitly, but he was directly next to Geene when Rumoosh started his charge that paralysed them, so it'd seem inevitable he'd be caught in the crossfire. Also, he had an expression f complete shock from Rumoosh's roar, as opposed to Beerus and Quitela seeming more annoyed and disgruntled by the effect than completely shocked.

The gap between the top and bottom tier Hakaishin certainly isn't any Raditz to Vegeta type of thing. Looking back at it, a mediocre Hakaishin like Geene still seemed capable of scuffing up Champa a little, so the weaker Hakaishin should still be capable of dealing damage to those around the level of the top 5 if assuming that was purely from their scuffle.

What if the Hakaishins have amplified attacks?

Or did Beerus train secretly after the ToP?

Or Beerus was surpassed by UI Goku for a while now, but Beerus's Hakai makes him somehow superior to UI Goku?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Makes one wonder when Moro gave Seven-Three his power.

Probably on their way back to Earth.

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@SIAD seeing how Beerus can easily defeat Vegeta who is stronger than Broly, it seems like Beerus has trained. Otherwise it seems like Beerus can one shot most gods, which isn’t implied at all.

 

[Pyro]

Probably on their way back to Earth.

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@SIAD seeing how Beerus can easily defeat Vegeta who is stronger than Broly, it seems like Beerus has trained. Otherwise it seems like Beerus can one shot most gods, which isn’t implied at all.

Seven-Three had Moro's power during his first trip to Earth.

 

[ベジータ]

Otherwise it seems like Beerus can one shot most gods, which isn’t implied at all.

It doesn't contradict anything though, Beerus being >>> Belmod is fine, and Beerus is probably already at his limit, making gains after millions of years as a GoD doesn't make sense to me, much less that he improves much faster than Goku, ToP Beerus being comparable to Belmod means being comparable to ToP UI Goku or even weaker but now it seems that Beerus is still >>> Goku and Vegeta, the only GoDs that should be comparable to Beerus are Quitela, Champa and Mosco.

 

[SSJ2]

Considering Mosco could take out two of the GoDs at once, maybe Beerus is capable of one shotting them.

 

[Pyro]

How much damage did the gods take from each other?

 

[SSJ2]

Enough that they all needed to be healed aside from the Chad Belmod.

Spoiler

What I find interesting is that Beerus was able to completely overpower Mosco from a position of no leverage, and was then able to completely fool the other GoDs by moving at extreme speed. To me this suggests that the gap is pretty large between Beerus and the other GoDs. We later see Mosco being capable of taking on two of them:



And Beerus is much stronger than him.. The gap is definitely large. Beerus must have taken most of his damage when he was paralyzed by Rumoosh.