Hit (Start ToP) > Hit (Fill vs Goku) = Golden Frieza (ToP) >= Dyspo (Speed) > Hit (Suppressed Speed)

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Hit (Start ToP) > Hit (Fill vs Goku) = Golden Frieza (ToP) >= Dyspo (Speed) > Hit (Suppressed Speed)

Apparently Goku does not increase his fight level between his fight against Hit until the beginning of the ToP.

Hit seems to be wasting time using time jump and that makes him unable to counter Dyspo's speed. Then Hit allows himself to be hit by Dyspo, suppressing his speed a bit. Goku acknowledges that Hit has become stronger than before.

Later chapters show Golden Frieza a little faster than Dyspo, therefore:

Hit (Start ToP) > Hit (Fill vs Goku) = Golden Frieza (ToP) >= Dyspo (Speed) > Hit (Suppressed Speed).

The other option is that Goku after his fight against Hit has obtained a Zenkai Power or maybe he kept training for a while and then spent some time without training.

What do you think?

 

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@GreatSaiyaman123
@Animelover5487
@Goku9001

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Why would Hit suppress his speed if he was faster than Dyspo?

Also didn’t Freeza beat Dyspo very easily? I think the difference in speed is more of a > or >> instead of >=.

SSJB Goku = Golden Freeza >/>> Hit (Adapted) > Dyspo (Speed) >>> Hit (Initial) ~ Dyspo (Power)

 

[SIAD]

Why would Hit suppress his speed if he was faster than Dyspo?

Also didn’t Freeza beat Dyspo very easily? I think the difference in speed is more of a > or >> instead of >=.

SSJB Goku = Golden Freeza >/>> Hit (Adapted) > Dyspo (Speed) >>> Hit (Initial) ~ Dyspo (Power)

And what do you think of Goku getting a Power Up after his fight against Hit in the Fill?

 

[Animelover5487]

And what do you think of Goku getting a Power Up after his fight against Hit in the Fill?

Goku didn't get a power up, it was established that Goku didn't do any training and got rusty so much so that he got a scratch from a gunshot.

It makes more sense that Goku got stronger after the Zen Exhibition. He was recruiting people but he still did a bit of training in between.

 

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Goku didn't get a power up, it was established that Goku didn't do any training and got rusty so much so that he got a scratch from a gunshot.

It makes more sense that Goku got stronger after the Zen Exhibition. He was recruiting people but he still did a bit of training in between.

I mean that Goku received some kind of Zenkai Power after his fight or Power Up and from there he stopped training.

My problem with having Goku get stronger by recruiting the Z Fighters, is that I don't think Golden Frieza is superior to Ultimate Gohan, due to the dialogue they both had in ToP. If Golden Frieza betrays Gohan, Gohan will destroy him.

Something like:

Goku SSJB (Vs Hit) = 100
Goku SSJB (Post Hit) = 125
Goku SSJB (Exhibition Tournament) = 125 >=
Goku SSJB (Start ToP) = >= 125

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

Hit was perfoming poorly due to not being fast enough to keep up with him, as the fight continues going on, Toppo states that he is adapting to his speed and later on, he was fighting evenly with him, at the end of the chapter, Goku acknowledge that he has gotten stronger once again. Hit was also able to counter Dyspo's advantage using his ears luring him pretending to use time skip. Golden Freeza on the other hand, completely outmatched his speed. lol

 

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What do you think of:

Hit (Adapted Velocity against Dyspo) = Dyspo (Velocity) > Hit (Start of ToP) = Hit (Fill)?

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

What do you think of:

Hit (Adapted Velocity against Dyspo) = Dyspo (Velocity) > Hit (Start of ToP) = Hit (Fill)?

I agree.

 

[Goku9001]

I'm not sure if Hit was actually growing stronger during his fight with Dyspo. He was learning Dyspo's fighting style which seemed crucial in handling his speed based on what Goku and Frieza claim about Dyspo when they say he's linear and predictable. Hit seemed to capitalize on Dyspo's fast but linear fighting style by knowing exactly when he's mounting an attack so he knows when to bait him into a Time Skip or not.

But who knows, maybe he was. It is weird to think that Hit had become stronger than Blue Goku prior to the tournament.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I think Hit was definitely improving his speed because he at least needs to be able to see Dyspo before fighting him. He might not have raised his power as much though since he didn’t two shot Dyspo like he did Kunshi, so who knows

 

[Goku9001]

I think Hit was definitely improving his speed because he at least needs to be able to see Dyspo before fighting him. He might not have raised his power as much though since he didn’t two shot Dyspo like he did Kunshi, so who knows

He did see his movement. The reason he thought it was a Time Skip because Hit's Time Skip was intercepted, something that logically should never happen.

 

[SIAD]

I go with: Hit (Adapted Speed vs. Dyspo) = Dyspo (Speed) > Hit (Suppressed Speed vs. Dyspo) = Hit (Fill).

I think Hit wasted time trying to time jump and as he tried to adapt to Dyspo's fighting style, he wasn't using all of his speed.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

He did see his movement. The reason he thought it was a Time Skip because Hit's Time Skip was intercepted, something that logically should never happen.

Episode: 104
Time: 07:11-07:16
Context: Hit is surprised on Dyspo's attack
Hit: "I can't see his initial attack. It's like he's using Time Skip on me."

 

[Goku9001]

Episode: 104
Time: 07:11-07:16
Context: Hit is surprised on Dyspo's attack
Hit: "I can't see his initial attack. It's like he's using Time Skip on me."

That is fascinating. I wouldn't say that puts Hit (Initial) on par with God Goku but I guess it does make sense seeing how Blue Goku eventually far surpasses Toppo by the time he fights Jiren.

Did you pull that from a strength checker or you just manually searched for the statement?

 

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@GreatSaiyaman123
@Animelover5487
@Goku9001

What do you think of:

Goku SSJB (Start of ToP) >= Hit (Adapted Velocity against Dyspo) = Dyspo (Velocity) > Hit (Start of ToP) = Hit (Fill)?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

That is fascinating. I wouldn't say that puts Hit (Initial) on par with God Goku but I guess it does make sense seeing how Blue Goku eventually far surpasses Toppo by the time he fights Jiren.

Did you pull that from a strength checker or you just manually searched for the statement?

SSJG Goku couldn’t really see Dyspo either, so yeah he’s not stronger than Dyspo.

There was a Fact Checker made a few years ago back in here, dunno why people don’t use it as much. @Super Saiyan was also doing a Strength Checker, but he hasn’t done the ToP

@GreatSaiyaman123
@Animelover5487
@Goku9001

What do you think of:

Goku SSJB (Start of ToP) >= Hit (Adapted Velocity against Dyspo) = Dyspo (Velocity) > Hit (Start of ToP) = Hit (Fill)?

I think it’s more like

SSJB Goku > Hit (Adapted speed) against Dyspo) > Dyspo (Speed)

Did Hit only adapt his speed or did his power rise as well?