Hit stronger than Toppo?

[Fantastische Hure]

Jiren said he's got rid of all the people he needed to. Somehow didn't even bother with Vegeta (isn't he supposed to be equal to Goku?) or Freeza.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

he was told by vermoud to get rid of goku

 

[xenos5]

Jiren said he's got rid of all the people he needed to. Somehow didn't even bother with Vegeta (isn't he supposed to be equal to Goku?) or Freeza.

I think Jiren doesn't consider anything less than what's at and between SSBKKx20 level to Ultra Instinct level a threat.

The Time Lock Hit used on Jiren force Jiren to struggle to a greater extent than the Spirit Bomb pushed by SSBKKx20 Goku (since Jiren constantly grunted and could only slowly move with the time lock on him).

Toppo is SSBKK level (though to what multiplier of kaioken is unknown).

Toppo would be defeated by Hit's time lock and Hit could also definitely endure Toppo's attacks and improve considering he endured eye beams from Jiren that had a greater rate of fire/amount than what was used on SSBKKx20 Goku.

 

[xenos5]

Jiren said he's got rid of all the people he needed to. Somehow didn't even bother with Vegeta (isn't he supposed to be equal to Goku?) or Freeza.

I think Jiren doesn't consider anything less than what's at and between SSBKKx20 level to Ultra Instinct level a threat. SSB level probably isn't enough to break through Jiren's meditating barrier I guess.

The Cage of Time Hit used on Jiren forced Jiren to struggle to a greater extent than the Spirit Bomb pushed by SSBKKx20 Goku (since Jiren constantly grunted and could only slowly move with the time lock on him).

Toppo is SSBKK level (though to what multiplier of kaioken is unknown).

Toppo would be defeated by Hit's time lock and Hit could also definitely endure Toppo's attacks and improve considering he endured eye beams from Jiren that had a greater rate of fire/amount than what was used on SSBKKx20 Goku and was able to block quite a few punches from JIren.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Only Hit and Goku are threat to U11 hence the need of Jiren to step in. As for Vegeta and Freeza, Toppo and Dyspo are probably enough to handle those two given that Toppo was shown to be equal to SSjinB KK Goku and Dyspo was capable enough to keep up with Hit.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Jiren said he's got rid of all the people he needed to. Somehow didn't even bother with Vegeta (isn't he supposed to be equal to Goku?) or Freeza.

I think Jiren doesn't consider anything less than what's at and between SSBKKx20 level to Ultra Instinct level a threat. SSB level probably isn't enough to break through Jiren's meditating barrier I guess.

The Cage of Time Hit used on Jiren forced Jiren to struggle to a greater extent than the Spirit Bomb pushed by SSBKKx20 Goku (since Jiren constantly grunted and could only slowly move with the time lock on him).

Toppo is SSBKK level (though to what multiplier of kaioken is unknown).

Toppo would be defeated by Hit's time lock and Hit could also definitely endure Toppo's attacks and improve considering he endured eye beams from Jiren that had a greater rate of fire/amount than what was used on SSBKKx20 Goku and was able to block quite a few punches from JIren.

Yeah, but did Jiren know about Hit's trump-card?

 

[xenos5]

Yeah, but did Jiren know about Hit's trump-card?

Jiren learned of Hit's ability to improve mid-battle while watching the Dyspo fight (when Toppo talked about Hit adapting to Dyspo's speed Jiren looked on and seemed to make some expression showing he was intently focusing) so Jiren likely also considered Hit's ability to improve part of what makes him a threat.

And he wasn't wrong to think that since Goku would probably be the only other fighter to be able to consistently block punches from Jiren to the extent Hit did after adapting to Jiren's timing (and landing that surprise attack through memorizing Jiren's timing as well).

 

[Fantastische Hure]

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