How did Gohan lose to Hirudegarn and Gotenks defeated Hirudegarn?

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Gohan likely slacked off with his Saiyaman shenanigans and was one step short of being his tracksuit twink self. :troll

That or the kids trained enough to bridge the relatively small gap between them.
 

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I've always gone with Gohan and Gotenks being nerfed in the movie vs. Goku being haxed. Pretty sure SS2 Goku and SS2 Veggie outperformed Gohan in the movie. I guess Gohan was nerfed more than Gotenks. :toei
 

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Void said:
I've always gone with Gohan and Gotenks being nerfed in the movie vs. Goku being haxed. Pretty sure SS2 Goku and SS2 Veggie outperformed Gohan in the movie. I guess Gohan was nerfed more than Gotenks. :toei
Haxing Galu and Veggie would probably work better, considering that's what was going on in the anime at the time.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Void said:
I've always gone with Gohan and Gotenks being nerfed in the movie vs. Goku being haxed. Pretty sure SS2 Goku and SS2 Veggie outperformed Gohan in the movie. I guess Gohan was nerfed more than Gotenks. :toei
Haxing Galu and Veggie would probably work better, considering that's what was going on in the anime at the time.
Half :pakl :pakl :pakl logic. :pakl :pakl :pakl
 

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Gohan's never been a good fighter. Hirudegarn's capability to essentially turn incorporeal while in mist form was implied to be why the Z-Fighters had such a difficult time in their first big scuffle with him. Gotenks was lucky enough to get a good opportunity. With Gohan's lack of fighting skill and Hirudegarn's mist phasing, it's no wonder he got his ass kicked; even Goku succumbed to it. I don't think Gotenks needs to be stronger than Gohan considering the latter never was able to land an attack, while Gotenks landed a special, but I can see why it looks that way.
 

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Gohan had his SSJ2 Post Z Sword power at that time. He had lost his mystic power up but could still access his max power without transforming.
 

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