How do you interpret the conversation between goku and krillin about letting vegeta alive?

Miss Scarlet

Low Class Warrior
Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2024
Messages
185
simage.jpegsimage (1).jpegsimage (2).jpegsimage (3).jpeg

Goku says he knows vegeta is ridiculously strong... and that he realized that vegeta far surpassed him.. and he wants his own rematch to prove that he can surpass him. Do you think he's just talking about his regular power and not about kaioken?
 
Last edited:

Warmmedown

Elite
Member
Joined
Jun 4, 2015
Messages
9,993
Age
31
Idk, but it's interesting he feels "far surpassed" by Vegeta, considering he was beating Vegeta without oozaru and oozaru is a completely different way of being a fighter to what Goku has lived and compared himself to throughout his life.

It's like being the strongest lifter and then comparing yourself to a guy who can transform into a forklift.
:alex2
 

Papasmurf

Zeta Elite
Legend
Member
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
30,975
Vegeta was over double his base power and the only times Goku surpassed his power were when he pushed his body past its limits and crippled himself as a result. Think of it like how Goku could only beat #13 and Janenba using moves that weren't his original power that he can use stably without major risks.
 

ahill1

Super Elite
Donor
Joined
Sep 4, 2015
Messages
14,407
Goku was just attending his selfish desires of wanting to battle someone strong. He knows the risks and acknowledged that Vegeta isn't like Piccolo, he didn't think Vegeta would change... But he couldn't let go of his desire to have someone so strong as a goal of his to keep pushing him, so his drive, his maniac love for fighting took precedence over the danger Vegeta posed.
 

Hector

High Class Warrior
Member
Joined
Jun 9, 2020
Messages
2,204
The gap between FP Vegeta and 2x KK Goku wasn't that big, so by far surpassed, he obviously talked only about their base powers.
 

The_Authority

Low Class Warrior
Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2016
Messages
237
Why wouldn't Goku include Kaio-ken? It's a part of his abilities just like any other technique. Just like how Vegeta took it as a great victory that he felt he surpassed Goku when he was Super Saiyan, I don't think the characters dissect their own abilities the way the fans do. As far as Goku's concerned, his maximum power was with Kaio-ken x4 and Vegeta's was as an Ōzaru.
 

Yoshi

Elite
Ultimate
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
8,640
Age
30
In the Anime or Funimation Dub they made it sound like Goku was being merciful.
 

Papasmurf

Zeta Elite
Legend
Member
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
30,975
In the Anime or Funimation Dub they made it sound like Goku was being merciful.
Only the FUNimation dub really. The original dub pretty much made it clear Goku only spared him for the sake of a rematch with such a strong opponent.
 
Top