How do you view Movie 13?

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-How about Gohan having lost his mystic power, being his Post Sword self, but still being able to bring out his SSJ2 power without transforming?
-Is SSJ3 Goku>SSJ3 Gotenks, or did he win by draining Hirudegarn's energy with negative emotions?

 

[Pyro]

Gohan was Ultimate as fuck. He got the "transformation" and everything.

Goku doesn't need to be stronger than Gotenks. Gotenks was off-guard when he got clobbered by Hirudy's fist if I recall, while Goku was on-guard the whole time and had figured out the secret of Hirudy's teleportation hax by then.

 

[Six Trails]

Why on Earth would Gohan randomly be able to bring out his SS2 power without transforming?

 

[Southern Gothic]

I don't know about that SSJ2 stuff. But as for Goku, yeah, he's certainly presented here as top dog. He threatened to destroy Hirudegarn without SSJ3, and seemed pissed. I don't think Goku drained any negative emotions so much as Dragon-Fisted the fuck out of it.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Funny thing is that if Gohan wasn't ultimate then why would he wear Goku's gi?

 

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Gohan did not seem stronger than SSJ2s. Even SSJ2 Goku endured more time against Hirudegarn than Gohan.

 

[Future Warrior]

Of course Goku is ultra haxed in the movie. It's Toei for fucks sake.

 

[Pyro]

Gohan did not seem stronger than SSJ2s. Even SSJ2 Goku endured more time against Hirudegarn than Gohan.

SS2 Vegeta seemed to do better than SS2 Goku. :bordoga

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Gohan did not seem stronger than SSJ2s. Even SSJ2 Goku endured more time against Hirudegarn than Gohan.

SS2 Vegeta seemed to do better than SS2 Goku. :bordoga

That would mean.....