How much stronger are Goku and Vegeta now?

[SIAD]

At the end of the Granolah Arc, we had:

Black Frieza >>>>>> Buff Zombie Gas >> Zombie Gas >= Granolah (Peak + Shot) ~ UI Goku Giant Avatar >> Old Gas >> TUI Goku = Mega Instinct Vegeta (Peak) = Granolah (Peak) > Awakened Gas.


Some time passes, Goku and Vegeta train hard with Broly, where Base Broly (not Ikari) isn't much stronger than Vegeta and Base Goku. I believe in DBS Hero, both Mega Instinct Vegeta, UI Goku, and Orange Piccolo are almost at the same level of Buff Zombie Gas.

Black Frieza >>>>> Beast Gohan (Makankosappo) = Cell Max (Final Attack) > Beast Gohan >> Full Cell Max (Hypothetical) > Cell Max >>> Cell Max (Damaged) > Buff Zombie Gas >= Vegeta/Goku/Piccolo (Better Forms).

A few days pass, and it seems that Goku and Vegeta are getting stronger, as Base Vegeta was stronger than an even stronger Base Broly than before, until Broly became enraged and matched Vegeta SSJ.

Beast Gohan (Controlled Rage) > UI Goku/Mega Instinct Vegeta (Chapter 103) > Beast Gohan > Broly SSJFP (Peak) >> Cell Max >>> Cell Max (Damaged) > Buff Zombie Gas.

According to an interview, when the manga continues, the chain will be this:

Black Frieza >>>>>>> UI Goku / Mega Instinct Vegeta / Beast Gohan / Broly SSJFP / Orange Piccolo = Beast Gohan (Controlled Rage / Chapter 103 of the manga) >> Beast Gohan (DBS Hero).

What do you think about that?

 

[GSM123]

Base Broly is much stronger than base Goku. Goku was afraid of fighting him, and Broly fought SSJ Vegeta. I don't think they improved much since the Super Hero. It's been what, a few weeks? Maybe a month?

 

[SIAD]

Base Broly is much stronger than base Goku. Goku was afraid of fighting him, and Broly fought SSJ Vegeta. I don't think they improved much since the Super Hero. It's been what, a few weeks? Maybe a month?

I don't know how much time passed, however, Base Vegeta seemed to easily dominate Base Broly, even surpassing a relatively enraged Base Broly.

SSJ Vegeta was on par with a very enraged Base Broly.

Apparently, in that short time, Goku and Vegeta grew much stronger in their lower forms and perhaps in their best forms. Did they go from having the power of Orange Piccolo to a level close to Beast Gohan (Controlled Enraged)?

 

[GSM123]

I don't know how much time passed, however, Base Vegeta seemed to easily dominate Base Broly, even surpassing a relatively enraged Base Broly.

SSJ Vegeta was on par with a very enraged Base Broly.

Apparently, in that short time, Goku and Vegeta grew much stronger in their lower forms and perhaps in their best forms. Did they go from having the power of Orange Piccolo to a level close to Beast Gohan (Controlled Enraged)?

Base Broly might be ~ SSJ Vegeta. I don’t remember the fight, but it follows the movie showing Broly (Before Ikari) ~ SSJ Vegeta.

But Gohan and Piccolo were also training. More likely that Orange Piccolo was weaker than UI Goku before training, or Beast Gohan (Without rage) ~ Orange Piccolo ~ UI Goku.

 

[SIAD]

Base Broly might be ~ SSJ Vegeta. I don’t remember the fight, but it follows the movie showing Broly (Before Ikari) ~ SSJ Vegeta.

But Gohan and Piccolo were also training. More likely that Orange Piccolo was weaker than UI Goku before training, or Beast Gohan (Without rage) ~ Orange Piccolo ~ UI Goku.

If you can, rewatch the manga chapter where Broly vs. Vegeta fight, after DBS Hero.

At least in Chapter 103 of the DBS manga, there isn't that much of a gap between Beast Gohan (Controlled Rage) and Beast Gohan (Normal). However, the gap between Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo in the DBS Hero arc is too large.

 

[GSM123]

If you can, rewatch the manga chapter where Broly vs. Vegeta fight, after DBS Hero.

At least in Chapter 103 of the DBS manga, there isn't that much of a gap between Beast Gohan (Controlled Rage) and Beast Gohan (Normal). However, the gap between Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo in the DBS Hero arc is too large.

Beast Gohan (Controlled rage) scared Goku out of UI. I think the difference is big.