How much stronger is Base Jiren than his God of Destruction?

[Natasha Romanoff]

Some people use Whis statement about Jiren "perhaps" surpassing Belmod or that "it appears" that the rumor is true to discredit this notion, however, in past instances similar things have been said from Whis:

When everyone realized that Kaioken x20 Goku was powerless against Jiren:

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When is stated that Goku is at the limit of his limit while Jiren is far from full power:

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Some people use this to imply that Whis is talking about an hypothetical full power Jiren, whereas other ones considers that is illogical since you can't sense the hidden power from someone unless its unleashed, as well as other people believes that he is talking about Jiren at that point in time and that was Jiren pushing the Genkidama that leads Whis to say that.

Also, it's worth saying that Belmod considered that Toppo is no different from a God of Destruction, and that for some people this implies that Belmod is comparing Toppo with himself:

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However, this would also make Jiren leagues ahead of him as God Toppo was surpassed by Evolved Blue Vegeta, who in turn, was no match for a Suppressed Jiren.

What would be the best way to view it in your case?

 

[Animelover5487]

Maybe Belmod is one of the weaker GoDs. Whis did say that he was stronger than Beerus but Beerus did correct him by saying it was a arm wrestling match thst likely happened a very long time ago.

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

Maybe Belmod is one of the weaker GoDs. Whis did say that he was stronger than Beerus but Beerus did correct him by saying it was a arm wrestling match thst likely happened a very long time ago.

Well, it's likely possible, however, do you believe that even Suppressed Jiren is above him in terms of power?

 

[Animelover5487]

Didn't Jiren make several power ups? We know Toppo is at least stronger than Sidra since Freeza couldn't control the Hakai Toppo hit him with, and by extension Sidra would be much weaker than Jiren.

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

IMO Sidra can either be equal, weaker or in Ssj Blue Goku's league of power (the one who rivaled Golden Freeza) just due to the fact that he considered terryfying his power on the Zen Exhibition Match, but that's just my assumption.

And yeah, Jiren did several power ups after that, but people claims that Whis was speculating about full power Jiren, just due to the fact that he says "meanwhile Jiren appears to be far from full power." That notion seems unlikely to me because for example: Goku had no way of knowing how strong Perfect Cell could get by going full power and that Whis had barely any information of the other universes.