How Severe Are Differences In Power Level, Exactly?

[Sovran Nila]

Let's use the example of a power level of 700 compared to one of 747. How impactful is that 47 level difference? Is it a large difference, where the person with the extra 47 power has a significant advantage, or is it negligible?

 

[Yoshi]

Power Level debates aren't about stacking, they're about percentages.

So say there's a power level gap of 700 to 747 or basically 70/75 & 14/15 or 6.67% & 93.33% of 100%, that would be in the moderate rivalling range, at least in my opinion (distant rivalling gaps would be 90% of 100% and close rivalling gaps would be 95% of 100%).

In cases of where the opponent has the edge over you, it would be anywhere from 80% to 88% of 100%, and when it comes to stomping ranges, it would be anywhere from 60% to 75% of 100%.

I consider any power advantages in special cases like Initial Semi Perfect Cell over Android #16, Warming Up Perfect Cell over USSJ Vegeta, and Imperfect Cell Post Absorbtions over Kamiccolo, to be 50% of 100%, 40% of 100%, and 33% of 100% respectively, but again, this is just my opinion.

 

[Papasmurf]

A diff of ~50 would mean nothing in a battle between Goku and Nappa in the late Saiyan arc but it would be a game changer in the 23rd Budokai or between Goku and Piccolo during the arrival of Raditz. This is why I don't like Daizenshuu power levels of Zarbon and Dodoria, or Nappa's 4000 power being treated as his FP in WSJ and Daizenshuu faggotry.

 

[Yoshi]

Pretty much all of the Daizenshuu numbers are garbage, anyway. I only use the numbers listed for the Late Freeza Arc to prevent bloating too.

 

[Animelover5487]

This is why I don't like Daizenshuu power levels of Zarbon and Dodoria,

I actually don't think Zarbon and Dodoria's levels are too bad since Freeza said that they would be more than enough to defeat Vegeta if they fought together, and Kuririn said Zarbon and Vegeta had comparable battle powers. Zarbon got stomped but he definitely did much better than Cui did and Dodoria panicked and didn't even try to fight Vegeta.

 

[Papasmurf]

I actually don't think Zarbon and Dodoria's levels are too bad since Freeza said that they would be more than enough to defeat Vegeta if they fought together, and Kuririn said Zarbon and Vegeta had comparable battle powers. Zarbon got stomped but he definitely did much better than Cui did and Dodoria panicked and didn't even try to fight Vegeta.

23,000 is too close to 24,000 to justify Vegeta stomping him without taking a single hit, plus a clash with Vegeta actually put Monster Zarbon in some degree of visible pain. 21-22,000 sounds better for normal Zarbon.

 

[Animelover5487]

23,000 is too close to 24,000 to justify Vegeta stomping him without taking a single hit, plus a clash with Vegeta actually put Monster Zarbon in some degree of visible pain. 21-22,000 sounds better for normal Zarbon.

I think Zarbon is just a bad fighter. Vegeta commented on how rusty Zarbon was and how they always hid behind Freeza's power while never getting their own hands dirty.

 

[Papasmurf]

I think Zarbon is just a bad fighter. Vegeta commented on how rusty Zarbon was and how they always hid behind Freeza's power while never getting their own hands dirty.

Still his raw speed was significantly below Vegeta's and his best blast just got repelled one-handed. Doesn't look like there was a tiny ~5% gap.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

@Papasmurf what do you make of Zarbon and Dodoria’s reactions to Vegeta’s power? When it’s 22k it’s like “meh, must be a mistake” but the 24k had them freaking out saying it has to be a mistake. They didn’t believe either, but only the >22k one scared them.

 

[Papasmurf]

Dodoria assumed the Scouter malfunctioned because it was an older model. If going by his Daizenshuu level he'd still be below Vegeta's rating (since Zarbon said the Scouter broke precisely when it surpassed 21-22k), yet Dodoria was nonchalant for someone who just got surpassed.

 

[Hector]

Let's use the example of a power level of 700 compared to one of 747. How impactful is that 47 level difference? Is it a large difference, where the person with the extra 47 power has a significant advantage, or is it negligible?

It all depends on what power level you assign to Zarbon.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

It all depends on what power level you assign to Zarbon.

I think KKx2 Goku vs Vegeta already covers that gap. It was pretty onesided at barely over 1.1x.

 

[Animelover5487]

I think KKx2 Goku vs Vegeta already covers that gap. It was pretty onesided at barely over 1.1x.

That is why I don't think Zarbon being at 23k is bad. Statements from Kuririn and Freeza imply that they are somewhat rivals anyway.

 

[Hector]

I think KKx2 Goku vs Vegeta already covers that gap. It was pretty onesided at barely over 1.1x.

That was not a clear 1.12x gap. Kaioken was a tricky move that Goku could use only in short bursts.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

That is why I don't think Zarbon being at 23k is bad. Statements from Kuririn and Freeza imply that they are somewhat rivals anyway.

23k sounds a bit too close though, they’re almost the same. What would 30k Vegeta vs Monster Zarbon even be then? Dodoria being 22k which is closer than KKx2 Goku vs Vegeta is nuts.

That was not a clear 1.12x gap. Kaioken was a tricky move that Goku could use only in short bursts.

That definitely didn’t help Goku, but even when he was in those bursts Vegeta kicked his ass.

 

[Hector]

That definitely didn’t help Goku, but even when he was in those bursts Vegeta kicked his ass.

Mind that, logically, it took Goku a fraction of a second to turn on the kaioken and make sure he did it right so that he didn't damage his body. And a fraction of a second can make a huge difference at such speeds.

 

[Animelover5487]

23k sounds a bit too close though, they’re almost the same. What would 30k Vegeta vs Monster Zarbon even be then?

29k. Vegeta only killed him because Zarbon was fighting reckless and Vegeta threw dirt in his eyes.