How strong is Gogeta? (manga)

[AngelBorninHell]

Lol, nah man. Toyotarou is definitely not a fan just like us, bro. That’s one of the wildest statements I ever heard.

No, once one story exists, there's something which separates the story and another thing which separates the scriptor, the scriptor just become one person more. Regardless of asspulls you could come up with.

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It’s not about me adapting my position it’s about you adapting yours. If you want to have a Z-only opinion, that’s fine, but you have to qualify and accept that it is based on specs that take away from the totality of the source material. That’s how this works.

I'm not 100% based on Z, but I know when one retcon occurs, it's said on both mediums (Anime and Manga) and if it's anime-exclusive or manga-exclusive doesn't hold much value.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Well there’s different canons.

But the idea that they aren’t canon and your nonsense is, is silly. So stop that. Lol

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Well there’s different canons.

But the idea that they aren’t canon and your nonsense is, is silly. So stop that. Lol

DBS's obviously canon, don't know what you're understanding.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Ok, so when I use evidence from a canon source you don’t get to use your nonsense to contradict it. That’s the issue. So stop that. You need a disclaimer to do that. Like, “Hey, I know the Super manga suggests that, but in a perfect world in a Z only lens, this is how I think it should be.”

You need some qualifiers for the approach you are using. And then rightfully I will say I do not abide by your qualifiers and to beat it and you should make your own thread for qualifiers.

I’m trying to limit your ability to bring up nonsensical points here.

Imagine me countering your claims because of my own personal claims of how I feel and how annoying that would be. Keep your qualifiers to yourself and engage on the terms of what everyone has agreed upon.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Ok, so when I use evidence from a canon source you don’t get to use your nonsense to contradict it. That’s the issue. So stop that. You need a disclaimer to do that. Like, “Hey, I know the Super manga suggests that, but in a perfect world in a Z only lens, this is how I think it should be.”

So, you're fine with someone on their work deleting w/elbow what they scripted w/one hand? Or they scripting w/their foots and making one disaster? 'Cause some ideas needs for actually stay and respect what happened before. Mysteries clarified's acceptable, nonsensical mess which was scripted w/foots not.

You need some qualifiers for the approach you are using. And then rightfully I will say I do not abide by your qualifiers and to beat it and you should make your own thread for qualifiers.

I’m trying to limit your ability to bring up nonsensical points here.

Imagine me countering your claims because of my own personal claims of how I feel and how annoying that would be. Keep your qualifiers to yourself and engage on the terms of what everyone has agreed upon.

This makes zero coherence.

 

[Power Level Guy]

@AngelBorninHell

If it’s a mistake, it’s a mistake. If it’s a change in narrative, that’s something else. Where do you think the Super manga made an actual mistake?

 

[AngelBorninHell]

@AngelBorninHell

If it’s a mistake, it’s a mistake. If it’s a change in narrative, that’s something else. Where do you think the Super manga made an actual mistake?

Many, like how Kid Buu's treated like god tier or Beerus saying SSJ2 Goku was who defeated Frieza, but how many mistakes I'd think it have is irrelevant. One change in narrative also have gotten standards when getting acceptable, if Cell's said of not being much stronger (for example) than Goku or Vegeta by Cell Games? Do we have accepting it? No.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Beerus doesn’t say SSJ2 Goku defeated Freeza. Goku goes SSJ and Beerus asks Whis what’s up with the blond hair. It’s just that Goku went SSJ2 right as Beerus understood the Saiyans defeated Freeza with a transformation.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Beerus doesn’t say SSJ2 Goku defeated Freeza. Goku goes SSJ and Beerus asks Whis what’s up with the blond hair. It’s just that Goku went SSJ2 right as Beerus understood the Saiyans defeated Freeza with a transformation.

Yeah, this dude thinks his own misinterpretations of a story must be author mistakes. Lol what the heck.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Beerus doesn’t say SSJ2 Goku defeated Freeza. Goku goes SSJ and Beerus asks Whis what’s up with the blond hair. It’s just that Goku went SSJ2 right as Beerus understood the Saiyans defeated Freeza with a transformation.

You're just justifying the unjustifiable or simply reaching as much as you get. Statement's on reference of that seeming being the extent on his power.
Goku himself understood what Beerus was saying and you don't.

Yeah, this dude thinks his own misinterpretations of a story must be author mistakes. Lol what the heck.

Or maybe you should stop pretending being sober when you're not.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Or maybe you should stop pretending being sober when you're not.

What an odd comeback. That's about as weird as I've seen and I've been around a while. Kudos.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

What an odd comeback. That's about as weird as I've seen and I've been around a while. Kudos.

Have you considered rehabilitation?

 

[Power Level Guy]

Have you considered rehabilitation?

And it gets stranger and stranger. My goodness my boy, you are not battle tested at all. You are lucky you are dealing with an older, wiser, kinder me. Lol

 

[AngelBorninHell]

And it gets stranger and stranger. My goodness my boy, you are not battle tested at all. You are lucky you are dealing with an older, wiser, kinder me. Lol

Gets stranger because you can't admit you're alcoholical? And you're getting allucinations?

 

[Power Level Guy]

Gets stranger because you can't admit you're alcoholical? And you're getting allucinations?

Anyway...

You are misinterpreting everything here. Then you are saying it's not your interpretation that's wrong, but, oh wait, it's the author who is wrong! And this isn't a one-off thing, you are saying an official continuation which has more backing than any other by the original author, is bunk, because it doesn't jive with your interpretation of the story. Ah, it's nice to be on this side of things for a change lol.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Anyway...

You are misinterpreting everything here. Then you are saying it's not your interpretation that's wrong, but, oh wait, it's the author who is wrong! And this isn't a one-off thing, you are saying an official continuation which has more backing than any other by the original author, is bunk, because it doesn't jive with your interpretation of the story. Ah, it's nice to be on this side of things for a change lol.

Yes, it's my opinion Kid Buu's not god tier nor SSJ Goku was who defeated Frieza... instead of accepting you're reaching and accepting what actual material as disastrous like DBS manga told us.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Yes, it's my opinion Kid Buu's not god tier nor SSJ Goku was who defeated Frieza... instead of accepting you're reaching and accepting what actual material as disastrous like DBS manga told us.

Maybe Beerus is just goading Goku into showing his full power.

Not sure where Kid Buu being god tier is shown, but it is indeed possible. The Kid Buu Hax that infected the story might very well be alive and well in all continuations, not just this one. It's a legit concern. Do I agree with it? Of course not, but there is evidence for it.

 

[AngelBorninHell]

Maybe Beerus is just goading Goku into showing his full power.

He was unaware of SSJ3 Goku.

Not sure where Kid Buu being god tier is shown, but it is indeed possible. The Kid Buu Hax that infected the story might very well be alive and well in all continuations, not just this one. It's a legit concern. Do I agree with it? Of course not, but there is evidence for it.

 

[Power Level Guy]

He was unaware of SSJ3 Goku.

He wants SSJ God.

Who's a more formidable opponent that Goku has faced beyond Majin Buu? You do realize there's multiple iterations of Majin Buu, right?

 

[AngelBorninHell]

He wants SSJ God.

That was his profetic dream.

Who's a more formidable opponent that Goku has faced beyond Majin Buu? You do realize there's multiple iterations of Majin Buu, right?

He had faced Beerus, Golden Frieza, Hit. Yes, but just one who's wished of being reincarnated. On top of that, as far as original story goes just Fat Buu and Kid Buu were fought by Goku.

If you consider Vegetto as one version of Goku, he fought Buuhan too.