According to what I have understood the SSJ4 is not a multiplier, but that's all the potential of a Saiyan. So Goku SSJ4 (Beyond the Limits) >>>>>>> Goku SSJ4 (Arco Dragons Evil) = Goku SSJ4 (S17) = Goku SSJ4 (FP / Baby) >> Goku SSJ4 (Initial / Baby). Super # 17 (Post Absorption of Kamehameha x10) completely crush Goku SSJ4, for while Nuova Shenron was a little faster than SSJ4 Goku, but Goku SSJ4 strongman was a little more resistant to Nuova Shenron.