How strong is Tullece post-Fruit?

[Fantastische Hure]

After he eats the fruit, and beats up Goku.

I think he'd at-least be on-par with 1st Form Freeza.

But since Goku's power was 30,000 and sky-rocketing, it's possible that Goku could also be at the level, he was against the Ginyu-Force. 90,000. So Turles could also possibly be over a million, if you think that way.

 

[Base Gotenks]

I always thought the second fruit was the one to put him past Freeza's first form. For the first one, I go with Vegeta's level when he fought 1st Form Freeza.

So like 350,000.

 

[Pyro]

I put Goku around 40,000, so with Kaioken x10 he'd be at 400,000, making Turles much stronger than that. Sticking him around 1st Form Freeza's level doesn't seem unreasonable.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I always thought the second fruit was the one to put him past Freeza's first form. For the first one, I go with Vegeta's level when he fought 1st Form Freeza.

So like 350,000.

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I put Goku around 40,000, so with Kaioken x10 he'd be at 400,000, making Turles much stronger than that. Sticking him around 1st Form Freeza's level doesn't seem unreasonable.

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[Captain Cadaver]

I always thought the second fruit was the one to put him past Freeza's first form. For the first one, I go with Vegeta's level when he fought 1st Form Freeza.

So like 350,000.

That's way too low for Vegeta, considering he seemed to not be massively weaker than 1st form Freeza and confident enough that a 3 on 1 situation could have him get the better of a hypothetical transformed Freeza.

On topic, this depends on how much of a boost you treat "skyrocketing" as. With a minimalist view of his power only making small but constant increases, Base Goku would only need to be around 40k or so. However, there's also the point that Tullece was on the defensive before eating the Shinseijuu, despite being stronger than Oozaru Gohan, so at the high end, Base Goku could be equal to his Namek Arc selve's 90k.

Whichever one you go with would greatly affect Tullece's boost is keeping both of them consistent though my numbers would probably look something like this:

Tullece
~ Pre-Fruit - 150,000
~ Post-Fruit - 750,000
~ Post-2nd Fruit - 3,750,000 (assuming a consistent boost)

Son Goku
~ Base - 24,000
~ Kaioken x2 - 48,000
~ Base (Full power/Enraged - Implied to be stronger than his previous power by Tullece) - 60,000
~ Kaioken x10 - 600,000

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I always thought the second fruit was the one to put him past Freeza's first form. For the first one, I go with Vegeta's level when he fought 1st Form Freeza.

So like 350,000.

That's way too low for Vegeta, considering he seemed to not be massively weaker than 1st form Freeza and confident enough that a 3 on 1 situation could have him get the better of a hypothetical transformed Freeza.

On topic, this depends on how much of a boost you treat "skyrocketing" as. With a minimalist view of his power only making small but constant increases, Base Goku would only need to be around 40k or so. However, there's also the point that Tullece was on the defensive before eating the Shinseijuu, despite being stronger than Oozaru Gohan, so at the high end, Base Goku could be equal to his Namek Arc selve's 90k.

Whichever one you go with would greatly affect Tullece's boost is keeping both of them consistent though my numbers would probably look something like this:

Tullece
~ Pre-Fruit - 150,000
~ Post-Fruit - 750,000
~ Post-2nd Fruit - 3,750,000 (assuming a consistent boost)

Son Goku
~ Base - 24,000
~ Kaioken x2 - 48,000
~ Base (Full power/Enraged - Implied to be stronger than his previous power by Tullece) - 60,000
~ Kaioken x10 - 600,000

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That's one of the things, I was wondering, too. I mean how Kaio-Ken Goku was seemingly weaker than his normal power, later on in the movie.

 

[Pakl]

Tullece being 150k... Joke time is over... Kaioken Goku is weaker than Oozaru Gohan and the Kaioken amplifies Goku's max power meaning what was skyrocketing so Goku at best is 45k.. Anyway, I seriously doubt he is 40k if the movie mentions he is 30k... As I said before, he can be 35k

 

[Base Gotenks]

I always thought the second fruit was the one to put him past Freeza's first form. For the first one, I go with Vegeta's level when he fought 1st Form Freeza.

So like 350,000.

That's way too low for Vegeta, considering he seemed to not be massively weaker than 1st form Freeza and confident enough that a 3 on 1 situation could have him get the better of a hypothetical transformed Freeza.

On topic, this depends on how much of a boost you treat "skyrocketing" as. With a minimalist view of his power only making small but constant increases, Base Goku would only need to be around 40k or so. However, there's also the point that Tullece was on the defensive before eating the Shinseijuu, despite being stronger than Oozaru Gohan, so at the high end, Base Goku could be equal to his Namek Arc selve's 90k.

Whichever one you go with would greatly affect Tullece's boost is keeping both of them consistent though my numbers would probably look something like this:

Tullece
~ Pre-Fruit - 150,000
~ Post-Fruit - 750,000
~ Post-2nd Fruit - 3,750,000 (assuming a consistent boost)

Son Goku
~ Base - 24,000
~ Kaioken x2 - 48,000
~ Base (Full power/Enraged - Implied to be stronger than his previous power by Tullece) - 60,000
~ Kaioken x10 - 600,000

I was talking about Turles not Vegeta. As in "comparable" but not exact.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Tullece being 150k... Joke time is over... Kaioken Goku is weaker than Oozaru Gohan and the Kaioken amplifies Goku's max power meaning what was skyrocketing so Goku at best is 45k.. Anyway, I seriously doubt he is 40k if the movie mentions he is 30k... As I said before, he can be 35k

You didn't answer the q.

 

[Zippy]

Any where between 500k and 800k works imo

 

[Event Horizon]

Tullece: 55,000
- Post 1st fruit: 825,000
- Post 2nd fruit: 12,375,000
- Post 3rd fruit: 185,625,000

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I like the Tree of Might movie, it's my favorite but it is a mess with how haxed the Tree of Might fruit is. Turles is afraid of Goku's 30,000 and rapidly increasing power I wouldn't put Goku past 40K so with Kaioken x10 you've got 400K max or I do at least. Turles after eating fruit from the Tree of Might was too fast for Goku to keep up with so maybe 1.5x boost would fit so maybe 650K at best or at the very least exactly equal to 1st Form Frieza so then on his 2nd fruit I don't know he'd still have to be weaker than Young Slug and I put him on the same level as 2nd Form Frieza.

 

[Pakl]

Tullece is overrated.. He was shocked at 30k and only beat Piccolo

He is clearly weaker than Recoome

Not to mention, he was losing to Goku who should not be even 40k

 

[Pyro]

Your Reacoom must be a lot stronger than his canon counterpart.

 

[Pakl]

Your Tullece must be stronger than his real self

Recoome is 40k... Tullece was shitting in his pants over 30k

Recoome was not

 

[Captain Cadaver]

That was 30k and skyrocketing, not 30k. The latter part can potentially create a large difference.

 

[Pakl]

Tullece was afraid before it skyocketed.. If he is as strong or stronger than Recoome, why being so scared?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

You seem to be confusing surprised for scared. His reaction had more to do with Goku's jump in strength rather than it's relevance to himself. The fact that he was in no way scared by the uncontrollable Oozaru Gohan should make that clear enough.

 

[Pakl]

I think you are the one who can't notice between surprised and scared... Recoome was surprised when Vegeta was 30k as he was like "oh what!!" and Tullece was sweating and mumbling.. He was clearly afraid... Nothing even says Goku's power jumped.. It could of been his power all the time... He used Kaioken before and nothing happened.. It was just dramatic effect

The Oozaru part is a plot hole as Tullece is later shown only be able to beat Piccolo and was scared of 30k power...

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It should be obvious that Goku's power jumped, otherwise Tullece wouldn't have saved such a reaction until then, unless it was the oh so compelling argument of "dramatic effect". The Kaioken being used prior simply makes it more likely that Goku's power spiked up as the result of a rage boost. It was also far from being scared, considering he had no problem dodging Goku's attacks and seemed if anything, more concerned at Goku's growth in power than his power being above 30k, making note on how much it had grown with the statement "What's wrong with this guy? His battle power keeps skyrocketing!"

That's not a plot hole, merely evidence for the "skyrocketing" part giving note of how much more powerful Goku was than 30k, especially when the same couldn't be said for his Kaioken prior to fighting Tullece. You're simply ignoring it for your own convenience.