How to fix the Boo arc

p123

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Yea you legir have to change the story to make either way work. Just depends which way you want to change it.
 

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Completely change the bullshit implications in the Babidi Saga. The rest I don't care about as much.
 

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p123 said:
Yea you legir have to change the story to make either way work. Just depends which way you want to change it.
It doesn't look like the characters remember correctly what happened in the Budokai; I mean, Kaioshin saw Gohan SSJ2, but after it enters a in a state of disbelief to witness the power of Vegeta base... it doesn't make sense. Boo Saga is a mess.
 

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p123 said:
Yea you legir have to change the story to make either way work. Just depends which way you want to change it.
It doesn't look like the characters remember correctly what happened in the Budokai; I mean, Kaioshin saw Gohan SSJ2, but after it enters a in a state of disbelief to witness the power of Vegeta base... it doesn't make sense. Boo Saga is a mess.
 

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The Babidi section alone needs to be scrapped and rewritten entirely because of strength implications that few people give a shit about :) anyway

- Babidi and Dabura themselves are a mess. How do they know the saiyans have magnificent energy? Why do they think Pui Pui can handle the guys meant to fill up the rest of the Boo meter? Is that Kanzenshuu theory about Babidi thinking that their "magnificent energy" is latent power that they can't access viable? Why is this never hinted at if so? How does that translate to damage = energy for Boo? Why didn't Babidi use Dabura's energy for Boo or something? Did he at least try? Would a Makaioshin's power not work? How bout Yakon?
- Gohan uses SSJ2 against Dabura, and you make a mess of what the fuck Vegeta and Goku have been babbling about all this time. Gohan uses SSJ, and you make a mess of why he's not using SSJ2 and why Goku is so fixated on rage. "Hey son, just do the thing you did at the Budokai and you'll win..."
- Kaioshin's reactions to the saiyans' power and his cautiousness is strange. I don't write this off entirely these days but I think Toriyama got too caught up in Saiyan nut licking.
- The Dabura = Cell thing is so weird, so unnecessary. The way Goku words it makes you wonder why he even said it.
- Vegeta's character development from the last arc is kind of awkwardly inexplicably turned on its head for the sake of evil veggie and Goku vs Vegeta.
- Making Goku vs Vegeta like 3 pages in the manga. I mean, you already went that far with it, at least do something worthwhile with it.
- SSJ3 was a clear asspull and not really introduced well.
- We went through a whole lot of "the new generation" stuff that had been going on since the end of the Cell Games, but the end flipped that on it's head.
- Vegeta's dumbass thinking that the humans should take responsibility for Boo.

That's all I've got while on the crapper :et
 

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Holy crap you smoked it haha. Ok if we scrap the Badibi Saga how do we rewrite it?
 

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First we have Piccolo murk Pui Pui to silence the naysayers once and for all :OP:

The Boo energy thing has to be addressed first. Babidi thinking that the saiyans will get the job done while expecting Yakon to wipe them all out is too weird. There are fan theories like the Kanzenshuu one I mentioned but those seem pretty baseless to me and don't really change the fact that the story handled it poorly, imo.

Hell, maybe just have Boo wake up another way. "Babidi needs one more soul to join his cause before he has enough evil energy to jumpstart Majin Boo's heart..." Sounds cliche as fuck but it's a start.
 

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