HxH factually >>> OP

[ahill1]

I wouldn't. He doesn't seem like a good character to me. Besides I recently saw an image where they showed every-time or a lot of times when Hunter x Hunter (Gon) ripped-off DragonBall (Goku). Side by side comparisons.

I think he was inspired by Goku, just like Luffy. The three characters are pretty carefree in general, like to follow their instinct and are naive. Luffy is the most flamboyant out of the three. What seemed to distinguish Goku in the DB world was his naive nature and obliviousness to the world... Whereas Gon has such a simplist approach to things in general that surprises the cast, yet he's still so instinctive and pure that he attracts the people around him. Luffy is the most distinguishable one by his flamboyant and childish attitude.

Looking at HxH just makes me depressed or some sort of bad feeling. I don't know what it is. Maybe it reminds me of something not so good from the past.

It makes me pretty nostalgic tbh. I can't listen to the 1st opening and some soundtracks without feeling melancholic.

 

[Kyo]

togashi's exposition isn't great but it's really only super overbearing/terrible in the current arc imo

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I mean, I completely agree with ahill on this, but this HxH VS OP debate is becoming pretty stale, particularly when the main argument in OP's favour comes down to "Togashi's art is bad" or "text walls!", which is pretty superficial compared to plot and characters (also, Togashi can produce great art for the series every once in a while, even if extremely inconsistent).

Current One-Piece is probably still better. Comparing them both in their peaks isn't even a contest.

I have more positive things to say about the Election Arc of HxH compared to the writing of the past two OP Arcs, and the Election Arc is far worse than Current HxH.

I wouldn't. He doesn't seem like a good character to me. Besides I recently saw an image where they showed every-time or a lot of times when Hunter x Hunter (Gon) ripped-off DragonBall (Goku). Side by side comparisons.

There were a lot of times in which Luffy "ripped off" Goku as well. Both eaten copious amounts of food, being immune to some kind of dangerous technique (Akkumite Beam/Mero Mero Mellow), etc. If the artistic inspiration within Gon's fights is enough to count as a "ripoff", so are these.

Gon's main difference compared to Luffy is also that he's overall a more realistc character. His somewhat dumb and selfish actions make more sense when taking into account that is how a typical 12 year old would act in terms of their mindset and morality, whereas Luffy's lack of knowledge on most that isn't fighting comes off as inconsistent when taking into account the opportunities for education he's been given and his age. Gon also goes through some major changes during the Chimera Ant Arc, whereas Luffy remains entirely static throughout the series; something that becomes a major problem for the writing of the CP9 Arc and even more so, the post-timeskip material.

 

[Papasmurf]

Text walls on Medaka Box's level are detrimental to any series CC.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Wait we're seriously debating this? I thought we were just shit posting.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Text walls on Medaka Box's level are detrimental to any series CC.

Text walls with important information are still >>> Taking 12 pages to explain how Smiles work when you only need 1.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I can't see Hunter x Hunter reaching the emotional peaks that One-Piece did. Luffy being immune to an attack makes more sense because of the fruit so it didn't have to necessarily have been a "tribute" to Goku.

Hunter x Hunter author just doesn't know how to write manga. Why does he write so much text in a manga? Might just as-well write a guide-book alongside it. Eiichiro Oda knows how to distribute information organically through the story, instead of writing a mini guide-book in the middle of each chapter.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Hunter x Hunter author just doesn't know how to write manga. Why does he write so much text in a manga? Might just as-well write a guide-book alongside it. Eiichiro Oda knows how to distribute information organically through the story, instead of writing a mini guide-book in the middle of each chapter.

He only forgot for this current arc.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

From what I heard he's always had this problem it just got worse recently. Not that I care.

 

[Keedounan]

HxH > OP
FMA >>> Both

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I can't see Hunter x Hunter reaching the emotional peaks that One-Piece did.

As in forced melodrama, of course not. Togashi doesn't need to focus on that.

Luffy being immune to an attack makes more sense because of the fruit so it didn't have to necessarily have been a "tribute" to Goku.

Not after Haki made Devil Fruit abilities irrelevant if you can't compete with the series' power creep.

Hunter x Hunter author just doesn't know how to write manga. Why does he write so much text in a manga? Might just as-well write a guide-book alongside it.

Because he needs to do one of two things:

A. Display a lot of information in a short amount of time.
B. Bog down the pacing of a series by revealing information at a far slower rate than necessary.

Eiichiro Oda knows how to distribute information organically through the story, instead of writing a mini guide-book in the middle of each chapter.

He also knows how to make characters more than just a caricature of their initial self, have the series' power system ruined by power creep, have the plot armour reach new levels of ridiculous and make each arc have a predictable formula without any character growth.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

From what I heard he's always had this problem it just got worse recently. Not that I care.

I'll read OP if u read HxH, sounds gucci?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Doesn't really sound gucci. I'd be very happy with the first part though.

It's not forced melodrama CC, it's very real human drama. The story calls for it thus it happens. What about for example the Garp/Ace moment or just the Ace death in-general? A person torn between his ideals/work and his loved one. Complicated but realistic. "I have no sympathy for criminals...but for my family I do." "Why couldn't you just live like I told you?" (or something)

Hunter x Hunter has nothing on that.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

He's already bogging down the pacing by making the reader feel like "just get on with the story already" feeling.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It's not forced melodrama CC, it's very real human drama. The story calls for it thus it happens.

Only for East Blue and Alabasta. After that, the lack of permanent changes and the overblown nature of some scenes such as the Going Merry's funeral or Usopp returning to the crew don't have the same kind of impact due to some cheap writing conventions (plot convenience and character regression respectively in those cases), with Robin's "I want to live!" being the only notable moment in that arc (and even that doesn't really stand up that well due to how overt it was).

What about for example the Garp/Ace moment or just the Ace death in-general? A person torn between his ideals/work and his loved one. Complicated but realistic. "I have no sympathy for criminals...but for my family I do." "Why couldn't you just live like I told you." (or something)

Ace's death had a lot of impact in the moment, though more so for what it meant for Luffy as a character than Ace's fate when his screentime and notable impact in Luffy's life was fairly limited prior to the war. Even that doesn't hold up outside of its own vacuum, however, as Luffy's lack of change in how he handled his journey after the timeskip ends up making Ace's death hollow.

Hunter x Hunter has nothing on that.

Climax of the Chimera Ant Arc >>> OP in terms of crafting realistic drama with permanent consequences.

He's already bogging down the pacing by making the reader feel like "just get on with the story already" feeling.

So, the same as pretty much 90% of what OP has been since Dressrosa?

 

[Kyo]

I went back and watched some parts of the Chimera Ant arc thinking I'd have a more cynical take on it these days overall, but aside from the issues that I already had before it seems as good as I remembered. Though I'd like to see the anime's version cut down to size some.

 

[SSJ2]

I dont know why this makes you so happy to gloat about this. Comparing trash to trash only makes you look like a fool.

 

[ahill1]

Agreed with CC. While this is subjective, HxH's sad moments hit me way more in the feelings than OP's. The sad moments in OP got even worse to me post Time-Skip, with the only notable one being Doffy's farewell to Vergo and Monet. The rest is garbage to me.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

OK. Perhaps I can give you Merry and maybe Usopp, but what else is there? Law/Doflamingo relationship? Isn't that interesting? One-Piece doesn't do exposition as overtly as Hunter x Hunter author does. Not now either.

 

[ahill1]

One-Piece doesn't do exposition as overtly as Hunter x Hunter author does. Not now either.

At the expense of slowing down the pace and lasting one chapter to what could have been explained in a few pages.