HxH factually >>> OP

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ahill1 said:
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One-Piece doesn't do exposition as overtly as Hunter x Hunter author does. Not now either.

At the expense of slowing down the pace and lasting one chapter to what could have been explained in a few pages.
Is it better to move the story without needing to zone you out of the manga reading exposition (in an entertaining way might I add) or to take you out of the story and explain every little detail? I know which one needs more talent/skill.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Law/Doflamingo relationship? Isn't that interesting?
Not when it's made pointless by Luffy being the one to defeat Doflamingo through an asspulled power up in a manner where Law's contribution was left meaningless...as is the case with most arcs.

One-Piece doesn't do exposition as overtly as Hunter x Hunter author does. Not now either.
Which is true, yet doesn't make up for OP having far more cases of plot armour for the main cast (Luffy's overcoming Lucci's Rokuogan or overcoming his injuries against Katakuri, the Straw Hats' durability in Thriller Bark in general, etc.), far more contrived power ups (The Monster Trios' transformations in Enies Lobby, Gear 4th, far more of a repetitive structure to the point later arcs tend to be just poor man's versions of earlier, better arcs (Fishman Island = Terrible Arlong Park, Dressrosa = Terrible Alabasta, Whole Cake Island = God awful Water 7) and all of the main cast either remaining static throughout the entire journey or regressing whatever development they make in an arc (not to mention repeating the same gags over a dozen times).
 

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Well I can't comment on most of the post as it is right-now but I still stand by the only objectively correct answer:

One-Piece > HxH
 

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Although a lot of Togashi's exposition is unnecessary even for the type of series he's writing, OP inherently doesn't need that much exposition because there's not that much going on. Whenever something needs to be explained though it's just explained like it is in any other shounen.
 

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Gears? Haki? Ways of the world of the huge world building? Seven warlords concept? Crocodile's plot to take-over Alabasta? Need I go on?
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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OK. You got me. No but I've heard enough about it to know it's severe.

:shc

Watch it
Make me. :troll :troll :troll

:donovan
I will smack you with the back of my hand if you don't


For real though, is there a particular reason you dislike Hunter x Hunter and think it's overrated? By no means it's a masterpiece but it's honestly one of the best things what Shonen(and manga in general) gave.
 

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Notaka said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Notaka said:
Make me. :troll :troll :troll

:donovan
I will smack you with the back of my hand if you don't


For real though, is there a particular reason you dislike Hunter x Hunter and think it's overrated? By no means it's a masterpiece but it's honestly one of the best things what Shonen(and manga in general) gave.
It's just overrated. Besides me & SSJ I have never ever seen anyone walking on god's green earth talk anything bad about this manga as if it were flawless. I think I need to post the IQ post again. Especially with Ahil1's opening post.
 

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"To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand HunterXHunter. The dialogue is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the plot will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Gon’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of this story, to realise that they’re not just entertaining- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike HunterXHunter truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Gon’s existential Nen ability “Jajanken,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Yoshihiro Togashi’s genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them."
 

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I've seen plenty of hate on HxH tbh. Most of it is dissing the chimera ant arc so I wouldn't say HxH is as well regarded as you think it is, but I can see where you're coming from.

Also nice copypasta you have there
 

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Notaka said:
I've seen plenty of hate on HxH tbh. Most of it is dissing the chimera ant arc so I wouldn't say HxH is as well regarded as you think it is, but I can see where you're coming from.

Also nice copypasta you have there
I've never seen anyone hate on it tbh. Only at best say they were "disappointed". The author in general seems to get a free-pass by everyone as if everything he were writing was an intellectual master-piece.

I never claimed it was my post. I posted it on GD and said I saw it somewhere-else, thought it was hilarious and fitting and posted it here, because it was true.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
It's just overrated.
And OP isn't? :donovan

Besides me & SSJ I have never ever seen anyone walking on god's green earth talk anything bad about this manga as if it were flawless.
There's plenty of detractors for the series and whilst I'd consider it a good series, I consider Greed Island a bad arc and the Election Arc to be absolutely terrible (though not as bad as most of Part 2 OP). Hell, Gog's probably the biggest HxH defender on here, and he's conceded several times how bad that arc is.
It's definitely not the pinnacle of Shonen (that prize goes to Ashita no Joe), but I wouldn't say its low points are enough to make the series outright bad not compared to OP's low points, at least.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
I've never seen anyone hate on it tbh. Only at best say they were "disappointed". The author in general seems to get a free-pass by everyone as if everything he were writing was an intellectual master-piece.

I never claimed it was my post. I posted it on GD and said I saw it somewhere-else thought it was hilarious and fitting and posted it here, because it was true.

In that case that makes more sense. Yeah I do have to admit they praise it as an intellectual master piece, but that's because compared to other shonen, it does take a bit more brain to figure what happens. You can't understand these walls of text if you're a dumbass :withheld

Regardless, it's still funny. I'll be stealing it from you
 

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One-Piece is rated right or even underrated, considering how great it is. :donovan :donovan :donovan

Also CC you made me go down a rabbit hole. I looked-up Ashita No Joe again and this time I clicked on the author's name and what happened to his daughter. Terrible. I can never forgive you now.
 

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@FH -- I sincerely prefer reading wall of texts in a chapter and seeing the story advance at a tolerable peace than having to read 3 chapters to get what could be displayed in 1. Although yeah, the hiatus itself could be argued as a shitty pace, I think.

You can't talk about a series being overrated if you've never touched it, FH. How can you say something is overrated by only hearing it from other people? Read and form an opinion on it, otherwise you won't advance from the "shitty art and over exposition" points.
 

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Gon also has the most bland and generic design. You put him in a group of the most generic shōnen designs you can think of and you wouldn't be able to tell who he is. Same with Toguro in YYH. I guess he can't really draw.
 

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I’ve read HxH and it sucks. SHC is more than welcome to base his thoughts on my factual opinion.
 

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