I believe Goku didn;t want to hurt Vegeta's feelings by going SSJ3 against Evil Boo now

[xmysticgohanx]

Easiest way to make Vegeta's ""Goku is the strongest" in Super work

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Alternatively the Ultimate Gohan gap can be pretty small

 

[Six Trails]

That's such an absurd excuse. Goku didn't give a shit about "hurting Vegeta's feelings" like ten minutes later against Pure Boo.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

How do you explain what Vegeta said

 

[kriss-]

Goku only became cocky during his bout with Kid Boo, that doesn't take away from the fact that Goku asked Vegeta whether or not he could go all out against Boo because Vegeta wouldn't get a turn.

Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn

So Goku was going to go all out in SSj2 but Vegeta instructs him to use Super Saiyan 3, Goku hesitates for Vegeta's sake.

Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P13.1-6
Vegeta: “Don’t hesitate for my sake, and finish him off! With that Super Saiyan 3, you should be able to completely wipe out Boo with your ki once you gather it with all your might…!”
Goku: “Ye…yeah…I’ve been thinking of doing that as well since awhile back, but…I haven’t gotten the chance.”
Vegeta: “Eh?”
Goku: “If I want to wipe him out, I gotta gather ki for about one minute.”
Vegeta: “One minute?!”
Goku: “Dammnit~~~If it was with the Potara, I could have done it in one blast. …..Cheh~~~I guess I went and showed off too much. But I thought things would go a little better than this…!”
Vegeta: “…S …So you weren’t thinking of me…”

Then later we see that Goku began to show off and got a little cocky while fighting at Super Saiyan 3. He dismisses Vegeta's pride LATER, but that doesn't take from the fact that he didn't BEFORE receiving Vegeta's approval to use Super Saiyan 3.

Also don't listen to Mike. He's extremely rude.

 

[Six Trails]

Also don't listen to Mike. He's extremely rude.

This isn't "extremely rude" though: http://dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3839&p=93138#p93138

 

[Papasmurf]

It's moreso because Super is garbage

 

[xmysticgohanx]

It's moreso because Super is garbage

Super is > pre-Z Dragon Ball

no lie, that's exactly what I think

 

[kriss-]

Also don't listen to Mike. He's extremely rude.

This isn't "extremely rude" though: http://dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3839&p=93138#p93138

That wasn't directed at anybody in particular. Everything you say to me is rude and directed at me 90% of the time.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Also don't listen to Mike. He's extremely rude.

This isn't "extremely rude" though: http://dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3839&p=93138#p93138

I have to agree with him. You're always rude to him because of his/her religion.

 

[kriss-]

My religion? xD Are you referring to that classic 'Gokuism' people say I follow?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

My religion? xD Are you referring to that classic 'Gokuism' people say I follow?

 

[Clearin]

Alternatively the Ultimate Gohan gap can be pretty small

There is an argument that can be made for that in the manga. Goku says that to perform fusion dance the two fusees must be "fairly close in power". You can see that that's slightly different to the "exactly the same power" they need when actually fusing.

So for two people to fuse, they need to be close in power, and once that requirement is met, they need to match their Ki to be exactly the same as each other. This is further backed up by Goku saying he couldn't fuse with anyone because there was no one on par with him in the afterlife, despite Goku being able to suppress. Since Goku planned to fuse with Gohan via the fusion dance, that would make Ultimate Gohan "fairly close in power" to at least some form of Goku, likely SSj3.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Alternatively the Ultimate Gohan gap can be pretty small

There is an argument that can be made for that in the manga. Goku says that to perform fusion dance the two fusees must be "fairly close in power". You can see that that's slightly different to the "exactly the same power" they need when actually fusing.

So for two people to fuse, they need to be close in power, and once that requirement is met, they need to match their Ki to be exactly the same as each other. This is further backed up by Goku saying he couldn't fuse with anyone because there was no one on par with him in the afterlife, despite Goku being able to suppress. Since Goku planned to fuse with Gohan via the fusion dance, that would make Ultimate Gohan "fairly close in power" to at least some form of Goku, likely SSj3.

That would make Gotenks pre SS3 formsv irrelevant imo. I like this one since this what the manga tells us and not a biased opinion.

 

[kriss-]

My Gotenks Pre & Post RoSaT threads also debunk a majority of the common trends that people tend to follow nowadays.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

My Gotenks Pre & Post RoSaT threads also debunk a majority of the common trends that people tend to follow nowadays.

honestly they are too long for me to read

 

[kriss-]

Well you should check them out in bits and pieces than. Do it over the course of a week. There are some really good ideas in there.

 

[ahill1]

Alternatively the Ultimate Gohan gap can be pretty small

There is an argument that can be made for that in the manga. Goku says that to perform fusion dance the two fusees must be "fairly close in power". You can see that that's slightly different to the "exactly the same power" they need when actually fusing.

So for two people to fuse, they need to be close in power, and once that requirement is met, they need to match their Ki to be exactly the same as each other. This is further backed up by Goku saying he couldn't fuse with anyone because there was no one on par with him in the afterlife, despite Goku being able to suppress. Since Goku planned to fuse with Gohan via the fusion dance, that would make Ultimate Gohan "fairly close in power" to at least some form of Goku, likely SSj3.

Wait, that's my argument. I thought this argument a while ago when arguing this subject with Super Saiyan and Kamikaze Pyro in Kamikaze Pyro's GT battle power list lol.

 

[Clearin]

Alternatively the Ultimate Gohan gap can be pretty small

There is an argument that can be made for that in the manga. Goku says that to perform fusion dance the two fusees must be "fairly close in power". You can see that that's slightly different to the "exactly the same power" they need when actually fusing.

So for two people to fuse, they need to be close in power, and once that requirement is met, they need to match their Ki to be exactly the same as each other. This is further backed up by Goku saying he couldn't fuse with anyone because there was no one on par with him in the afterlife, despite Goku being able to suppress. Since Goku planned to fuse with Gohan via the fusion dance, that would make Ultimate Gohan "fairly close in power" to at least some form of Goku, likely SSj3.

Wait, that's my argument. I thought this argument a while ago when arguing this subject with Super Saiyan and Kamikaze Pyro in Kamikaze Pyro's GT battle power list lol.

To be fair I just said "an argument", not mine lol. If anything it's the mangas argument, and the fans simply use the quotes from the manga.

 

[ahill1]

I'm flattered I thought the same point as you, Clearin.