i think 1 of my fav. aspects of one-piece is...

[Fantastische Hure]

that every1 in the crew (iirc) usually gets their moments of being kewl in every arc, like where they have their fights or something & that's the focus of the chapter/episode (iirc).

i think they're a-lot of chapters where luffy isn't even featured (out-side of the cover)

i think

there's also the world-building i think but i think every1 knws abt that (since i think i made a thread abt that before)

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I wouldn't say each of the main cast getting their spotlight is something that unique to Nekketsu (Battle Shonen) manga though. Ring Ni Kakaero, Kinnikuman, Saint Seiya and Sakigake!! Otokojuku did so long before OP did, and did so in a manner more evenly spread out than for the main cast in more recent OP Arcs, with several crew members having been shafted for a while during the timeskip.

As for the world building, I honestly wouldn't say it's that good. It's creative, sure, but a lot of elements feel disconnected and unbelievable. For instance, the village Luffy grows up in is just outside of the giant Goa Kingdom as just its own independent piece of land, something that doesn't really make any sense, and there's no real reason given as to why the Grand Line islands all have their own unique magnetic poles to create ecosystems completely different from each other and completely unconnected (it may have something to do with the implication of the OP world having several moons from the Ohara models, though that's complete speculation right now). Also, for a series that gives constant focus to individual kingdoms, nations and political intrigue, the individual politics and customs of the majority of nations is quite lacking in its exploration, Skypiea and Fishman Island being the only major exceptions. OP's world has good concepts, but could use a lot of improvements in its execution.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

i thought the crew was split-up for a-lot during the time-skip, did eiichira oda focus on luffy's fights & actions only? i don't know.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The timeskip got pretty glossed over until the time passed. Once the crew were reunited, they all did get their moment in Fishman Island, but Sanji got sidelined pretty bad in both Punk Hazard and Dressrosa and Robin was given barely anything to do after it until acting as support for Kyros in Dressrosa.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

ye, sry. i meant post-time-skip.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

That sounds like Oda ripping off ToGOATshi

 

[SSJ2]

Toyotaro >>> Togashit

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Toyotaro >>> Togashit

Toyo made the GOAT

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Toyo made the GOAT

GOAT Moro <<< Lord Appule.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

i also like how top-tier villains were introduced relatively early & luffy still hasn't defeated or surpassed some of them (i think).

 

[SSJ2]

i also like how top-tier villains were introduced relatively early & luffy still hasn't defeated or surpassed some of them (i think).

But he beat Buggy and Don Krieg.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If anything, I'd say introducing a ceiling as an endgame for certain characters such as Mihawk when Oda was still working things out and unsure of how long OP would be did more harm than good in the long term. Leaving aside Crocodile being far weaker than the other Shichibukai, something Oda has even expressed regret at iirc, the power creep as the series went on makes a lot of events seem hard to swallow in retrospect such as why Lucci was treat as a big deal by Kuma or why Mihawk would take such an interest in Zoro. Sure, Zoro's determination was one part, but it seems a bit of a stretch when someone so infinitesimally weaker than him would need a lot of improbable situations and efforts to surpass him. It basically causes the same problem Super has with how they have to keep having Beerus be above Galu and Vegeta after so many power ups to the point it seems hard to swallow that Beerus would consider Super Saiyan God to be the one to match him.

But he beat Buggy and Don Krieg.

He "beat" them in the same sense that Vegeta "killed" Lord Appule.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

if crocodile defeated luffy with his poison in the end (or fought to a draw), doesn't don-krieg count too (if you think that way. i don't think i do)? sanji had to save luffy iirc.

i don't think i've ever seen eiichiro oda say that abt sir crocodile. is there a source for that?

i still think that's good abt one-piece. there's sort-of a hierarchy (of power/status), which i think is kewl.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

i don't think i've ever seen eiichiro oda say that abt sir crocodile. is there a source for that?

I'd heard about it a while ago, though after doing some digging, there seems to be no source of it and it's just a myth some fans spread. Still, the point stands that Crocodile being defeated so early on damages the power scaling with how strong the other Shichibukai are shown to be compared to his Alabasta self.

i still think that's good abt one-piece. there's sort-of a hierarchy (of power/status), which i think is kewl.

I agree in concept. Up until the end of the timeskip, it was done fairly well in tiering the different characters. After the timeskip with its bloated power creep of the New World where even fodder characters can wreck those treat as huge deals such as pre-TS Lucci, however, a lot of the integrity of its execution is lost.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

i heard that it might have been because of crocdile losing his ambition he once had. i think i once saw a point being made that luffy & co. also lost their power when something affected their emotions (i can't remember which point was mentioned exactly), so that might make sense that way.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

A lack of willpower nerfing someone from the level they can hold their own against New World high tiers to being weaker than a Grand Line rookie is still a pretty big stretch to take in though, particularly after the timeskip.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

didn't luffy lose a-lot of power too? also technically sir crocodile defeated luffy twice before, i think

 

[Captain Cadaver]

He did, but Alabasta Luffy beating Crocodile at all is essentially the same as Perfect Cell slacking off so much that he can be beaten by Raditz.

 

[SSJ2]

He did, but Alabasta Luffy beating Crocodile at all is essentially the same as Perfect Cell slacking off so much that he can be beaten by Raditz.

Maybe Raditz knows the Mafuba...

 

[Kyo]

i heard that it might have been because of crocdile losing his ambition he once had. i think i once saw a point being made that luffy & co. also lost their power when something affected their emotions (i can't remember which point was mentioned exactly), so that might make sense that way.

I have argued this point before (it is based both on some dialogue that I don't quite recall from Alabasta when Croc is lecturing Luffy*, plus Croc's line after Marineford where he says something like "Are you talking about me? My scars have healed" [in reference to Luffy's catatonic state]). It is clearly the writer's attempt to clean up the mess he made though, but at least he's aware.

*obviously when the dialogue was written at the time it had nothing to do with what we are currently discussing though