Initial Goku-Black vs Initial Bills

[Fantastische Hure]

The battle of the initials.

Who wins?

 

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If you mean the fake full power Beerus showed against Goku, i think he's a little stronger than Base Black Goku.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

If you mean the fake full power Beerus showed against Goku, i think he's a little stronger than Base Black Goku.

I mean Bills when he was just beating-up the Z-Team, before even Rage Super-Saiyan 2 Vegeta power-up.

 

[Flame]

Black one shots lol

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

SSjin2 Vegeta (Manga) > Initial Base Black >>> SSjin2 Enrage Vegeta > Initial Beerus IMO.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

SSjin2 Vegeta (Manga) > Initial Base Black >>> SSjin2 Enrage Vegeta > Initial Beerus IMO.

How do you know I meant the manga? Maybe I meant the anime.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Because both got smacked around by SSjin2 Vegeta?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Because both got smacked around by SSjin2 Vegeta?

No, in the anime he first fights Super-Saiyan 2 Goku and the next time we see him fight he transforms into Super-Saiyan Rosé, even-though he fights for awhile before transforming, too.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Beerus was likely putting forth a lot more than his initial power when fighting Galu after the U6 Arc, which makes sense when considering how the latter did against Hit with his base form alone, whilst his SS2 form is about equal to Anime Base Black. Needless to say, Black oneshots.

 

[Keedounan]

Black stomps.

 

[Spiral-Force]

Black slaughters him.

 

[Future Warrior]

This would be one of the biggest stomps in DB history. Initial Beerus is only stated to be stronger than a Super Saiyan 3 fusion (Never implied to be a multi-fold gap) while comparing the latter with a full power Super Saiyan God Goku is like comparing an ant to a dinosaur. Goku absorbed that power and made it his own which is stated by Beerus and later became more evident by having Goku fight just as well as SS as he did as a FP SSG. So Current SS Goku ~ Super Saiyan God Goku which is an extreme lowball, since I'm not even considering how much stronger Goku has gotten in the later arcs. Goku Black fought on par with a much stronger Goku in his Super Saiyan 2 form.

Goku Black (Initial) ~ Super Saiyan 2 Goku >> Super Saiyan God Goku ~ Super Saiyan Goku (At the very least) >>> Beerus (Initial) >/>> Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto/Gogeta (doesn't matter)

Even if you had Beerus be the one that fought FP Super Saiyan God Goku in the BOG arc, he would still get completely trashed.