Is current Fat Boo at the level of the God or Blue's transformations?

[ahill1]

That seems to be the case based on his performance against Moro, but some people argue such was merely due to Moro's magic being insufficient against fat Boo. What do you think?

 

[Papasmurf]

Moro took hits from SSJG Vegeta and even his SSJBE form when he was in a weaker form. Current Fat Boo is SSJB tier.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

He's easily above even PSSB tier based on his performance against a Moro who could take hits from SSBE Vegeta, probably on par with the likes of ToP Gohan/SSJ Kefla.

 

[ahill1]

What if Vegeta was already weakened when in SSBE?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

That'd be a major assumption when Vegeta made no note of him being weaker than he should be, something he'd definitely feel if Moro's magic was working so quickly.

 

[Pyro]

Moro was nothing to SSG Vegeta prior to his magic. Even Vegeta commented that Moro was a disappointment. Moro's eruption attack gave Vegeta extreme trouble and he explicitly stated it was the planet's life energy, not his own power. Vegeta needed to use Blue Evolution to completely overpower Moro's magic and reach a comfortable advantage. After Moro absorbed more of Namek's life energy and was stated to be "way stronger," Goku and Vegeta confirmed the latter couldn't win without Blue (which is admittedly vague now that there are two versions of it in Vegeta's arsenal, but whatever).

Boo flew right through the flame attack that gave Vegeta trouble earlier like it was thin air. When questioned how Boo could be trouncing Moro, Merus stated Boo was tapping into Dai Kaioshin's latent power. After Moro regained his full magical ability, Boo stated Moro would still attempt to absorb all of Namek's life energy to increase his actual power, implying his physical power alone was still insufficient for their fights. Dai Kaioshin Boo confirmed Moro with Namek's energy absorbed would be too much for them.

So yeah, I'm not seeing where Boo himself is much stronger. It's only with the power of Dai Kaioshin that he was able to fight Moro the way he did. But with that power, he is noticeably above Super Saiyan God tier, though I'm not sure if he's Blue tier yet.

 

[SSJ2]

[mention]Pyro[/mention] should the “tapping into Dai Kaioshin’s latent power” not be permanent? I don’t see why he would be able to utilize that power now only for it to go away tomorrow.

 

[Pyro]

@Pyro should the “tapping into Dai Kaioshin’s latent power” not be permanent? I don’t see why he would be able to utilize that power now only for it to go away tomorrow.

I don't know yet. It depends on how the arc is handled. I wouldn't be surprised with either direction, but if Boo keeps Dai Kaioshin's power, it would put a wrinkle in the 28th TB.

 

[SSJ2]

To be fair, Super ruined the 28th Budokai in the Battle of Gods arc. At this point EoZ may as well be forgotten about.

 

[Pyro]

I could reason it before with the Base Saiyans being so unbelievably powerful, but now Boo is God/Blue tier, which doesn't make any goddamn sense if the Saiyans aren't using any transformations. And Goku telling Goten he wouldn't have a problem with Boo if he'd kept training is the stupidest thing he's ever said.

 

[ahill1]

Moro was nothing to SSG Vegeta prior to his magic. Even Vegeta commented that Moro was a disappointment. Moro's eruption attack gave Vegeta extreme trouble and he explicitly stated it was the planet's life energy, not his own power. Vegeta needed to use Blue Evolution to completely overpower Moro's magic and reach a comfortable advantage. After Moro absorbed more of Namek's life energy and was stated to be "way stronger," Goku and Vegeta confirmed the latter couldn't win without Blue (which is admittedly vague now that there are two versions of it in Vegeta's arsenal, but whatever).

Boo flew right through the flame attack that gave Vegeta trouble earlier like it was thin air. When questioned how Boo could be trouncing Moro, Merus stated Boo was tapping into Dai Kaioshin's latent power. After Moro regained his full magical ability, Boo stated Moro would still attempt to absorb all of Namek's life energy to increase his actual power, implying his physical power alone was still insufficient for their fights. Dai Kaioshin Boo confirmed Moro with Namek's energy absorbed would be too much for them.

So yeah, I'm not seeing where Boo himself is much stronger. It's only with the power of Dai Kaioshin that he was able to fight Moro the way he did. But with that power, he is noticeably above Super Saiyan God tier, though I'm not sure if he's Blue tier yet.

Boo flew right through Moro's attack, like you said... that seems a testament to his strength, as there's nothing implying Dai Kaioshin's special powers allowed him to do that,

Merus didn't state Boo tapped on Dai Kaioshin's potential. He said that accessing Dai Kaioshin's memories allowed Boo to tap into his (Boo's) latent power.

 

[Pyro]

Moro was nothing to SSG Vegeta prior to his magic. Even Vegeta commented that Moro was a disappointment. Moro's eruption attack gave Vegeta extreme trouble and he explicitly stated it was the planet's life energy, not his own power. Vegeta needed to use Blue Evolution to completely overpower Moro's magic and reach a comfortable advantage. After Moro absorbed more of Namek's life energy and was stated to be "way stronger," Goku and Vegeta confirmed the latter couldn't win without Blue (which is admittedly vague now that there are two versions of it in Vegeta's arsenal, but whatever).

Boo flew right through the flame attack that gave Vegeta trouble earlier like it was thin air. When questioned how Boo could be trouncing Moro, Merus stated Boo was tapping into Dai Kaioshin's latent power. After Moro regained his full magical ability, Boo stated Moro would still attempt to absorb all of Namek's life energy to increase his actual power, implying his physical power alone was still insufficient for their fights. Dai Kaioshin Boo confirmed Moro with Namek's energy absorbed would be too much for them.

So yeah, I'm not seeing where Boo himself is much stronger. It's only with the power of Dai Kaioshin that he was able to fight Moro the way he did. But with that power, he is noticeably above Super Saiyan God tier, though I'm not sure if he's Blue tier yet.

Boo flew right through Moro's attack, like you said... that seems a testament to his strength, as there's nothing implying Dai Kaioshin's special powers allowed him to do that,

Merus didn't state Boo tapped on Dai Kaioshin's potential. He said that accessing Dai Kaioshin's memories allowed Boo to tap into his (Boo's) latent power.

...which is Dai Kaioshin's power.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Hard to come to a conclusion with this trash arc but with the way Boo managed to handle Moro something that Vegeta as SSjinG or SSjinBE struggled to do so then sure.

 

[Pyro]

SSBE Vegeta had no trouble with Moro whatsoever.

 

[ahill1]

Moro was nothing to SSG Vegeta prior to his magic. Even Vegeta commented that Moro was a disappointment. Moro's eruption attack gave Vegeta extreme trouble and he explicitly stated it was the planet's life energy, not his own power. Vegeta needed to use Blue Evolution to completely overpower Moro's magic and reach a comfortable advantage. After Moro absorbed more of Namek's life energy and was stated to be "way stronger," Goku and Vegeta confirmed the latter couldn't win without Blue (which is admittedly vague now that there are two versions of it in Vegeta's arsenal, but whatever).

Boo flew right through the flame attack that gave Vegeta trouble earlier like it was thin air. When questioned how Boo could be trouncing Moro, Merus stated Boo was tapping into Dai Kaioshin's latent power. After Moro regained his full magical ability, Boo stated Moro would still attempt to absorb all of Namek's life energy to increase his actual power, implying his physical power alone was still insufficient for their fights. Dai Kaioshin Boo confirmed Moro with Namek's energy absorbed would be too much for them.

So yeah, I'm not seeing where Boo himself is much stronger. It's only with the power of Dai Kaioshin that he was able to fight Moro the way he did. But with that power, he is noticeably above Super Saiyan God tier, though I'm not sure if he's Blue tier yet.

Boo flew right through Moro's attack, like you said... that seems a testament to his strength, as there's nothing implying Dai Kaioshin's special powers allowed him to do that,

Merus didn't state Boo tapped on Dai Kaioshin's potential. He said that accessing Dai Kaioshin's memories allowed Boo to tap into his (Boo's) latent power.

...which is Dai Kaioshin's power.

Fat Boo isn't just Dai Kaioshin.

 

[Pyro]

Boo flew right through Moro's attack, like you said... that seems a testament to his strength, as there's nothing implying Dai Kaioshin's special powers allowed him to do that,

Merus didn't state Boo tapped on Dai Kaioshin's potential. He said that accessing Dai Kaioshin's memories allowed Boo to tap into his (Boo's) latent power.

...which is Dai Kaioshin's power.

Fat Boo isn't just Dai Kaioshin.

But it's specifically pointed out that Boo has so much latent power because of Dai Kaioshin's influence.

 

[ahill1]

...which is Dai Kaioshin's power.

Fat Boo isn't just Dai Kaioshin.

But it's specifically pointed out that Boo has so much latent power because of Dai Kaioshin's influence.

Where was it stated? Just checked the manga and couldn't find it.

 

[Pyro]

Fat Boo isn't just Dai Kaioshin.

But it's specifically pointed out that Boo has so much latent power because of Dai Kaioshin's influence.

Where was it stated? Just checked the manga and couldn't find it.

The latest chapter, I believe.

Ch. 48, pg. 7.2-5
Goku: "Hmm... I haven't seen Boo fight in a long while. Moro's magic doesn't work on him, but it also seems like he's gotten stronger?"
Merus: "Y-you think so? Perhaps unlocking those memories somehow unleashed his latent potential. But to this extent...? How unexpected."

Obviously he's talking about Dai Kaioshin's memories, so Dai Kaioshin is the catalyst for this power boost.

 

[ahill1]

It's talking about Dai's memories, sure... but it only means that Kaioshun's memories were the catalyst for Boo unlocking his own potential. It doesn't mean this increase in power was actually Kaioshin's potential. In other words, Dai Kaioshin's memories allowed Boo to tap into his own potential.

 

[Pyro]

Meh. Whatever you see fit. I don't care enough about this rancid franchise. I'd rather pop a squat in the middle of my backyard and drop the brown POWs than get heated about a show of secretly gay men rubbing buttholes together.