Is it easier to accept Super Vegetto is now fodder when...

[Fantastische Hure]

comparing DragonBall to DragonBall Z in-terms of power-jump?

I mean in DragonBall, Goku & Piccolo were god tier. In DragonBall Z, even Freeza fodder laughed at a power-level of 1,000. Standing next to DragonBall Z Kuririn they look like Farmer with Shot-Gun, just like Super-Vegetto'd look like Farmer with Shot-Gun if he was next to Cabba or Zamas. Bills brought with him a whole new level of power, just like Raditz did, except Bills is still relevant.

Even similar in the change of scale. In DragonBall Goku & Piccolo were the highest in the world, then in DragonBall Z the universe is seen, now in DragonBall Super the multi-verse is seen.

Maybe it's just that after so long of seeing Super-Vegetto as the gold standard in canon for so many people, that's hard to accept.

 

[SIAD]

Even at the Start of DBS, Goku and Vegeta SSJ2 were> Gohan Ultimate.

 This amazing Goku after being defeated by Beerus, knew that not even a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ3 (Start of DBS) could against that Beerus (Completely Deleted). Then Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) slightly surpassed Beerus (Completely Deleted), until the latter ignited and easily crushed Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

 Then Goku SSJG (Initial) exceeded tremendously the power of Beerus (Suppressed) that defeated Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

 Then Goku SSJG made 3 big power-ups, the power was so great, that even Goku Base (Post God) was> / >> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

 Bottom line: Goku SSJG (FP) >> Goku SSJG (Second Power Up) >> Goku SSJG (First Power Up) >>>> Goku SSJG (Initial) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Beerus (First Power Up) >>>>>>>>> Goku Base (Post God) >>> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Beerus (Completely Deleted) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I'm not so sure about SSJ3 Goku being higher.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It always seemed pretty easy to accept for me, though the recent problems with the Moro Arc's scaling has made things far more convoluted for those on either side of that debate.

 

[The Supreme Being]

He is not fodder, outside the gods are very few characters that are stronger than him.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

He is not fodder, outside the gods are very few characters that are stronger than him.

I mean Boo saga Super-Vegetto. Cabba could probably slap him.

 

[The Supreme Being]

He is not fodder, outside the gods are very few characters that are stronger than him.

I mean Boo saga Super-Vegetto. Cabba could probably slap him.

I know, but Super Vegetto is above 90% of ToP participants in my opinion, only Goku, Jiren, Vegeta, Toppo, Hit, Freeza, Gohan, Kale and Kefla are stronger than him (much stronger).

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Objectively wrong. Moro arc shows that Boo arc tier is still relevant. :rape

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Not in the anime.

You could also say Frost & Botamo & Magetta are superior.

 

[Papasmurf]

Objectively wrong. Moro arc shows that Boo arc tier is still relevant. :rape

Tracetaro is a fucking idiot :mikey :mikey

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Toei is worse though.

You got a company that can't even bother to make sure each writer follows previous writer's set logic.

 

[Papasmurf]

Goku alone overpowers Merged Zamasu's attack easier than Vegeta and Trunks' attacks combined 2

Also, Kefla is weaker than full power Blue Galu in one episode and equal to his Genki Dama in the next

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Objectively wrong. Moro arc shows that Boo arc tier is still relevant. :rape

Tracetaro is a fucking idiot :mikey :mikey

Toyo is following Toriyama's grand design. decided that Boo saga would never be surpassed.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

AT is the same one who wrote FnF though and there normal Goku > any version of Boo saga Vegetto. Not only that but it seems in the movies he writes at-least he's kept to what he said which is (IIRC) that only normal form, SSJ and God forms from now on.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

AT is the same one who wrote FnF though and there normal Goku > any version of Boo saga Vegetto. Not only that but it seems in the movies he writes at-least he's kept to what he said which is (IIRC) that only normal form, SSJ and God forms from now on.

Toriyama changed his mind.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

What about the second part?