Is Kaio-Shin stronger than 1st Form Freeza or 100% Freeza?

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Stronger than Freeza.
 

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He's stronger than 0.1st form Freeza. Anything more would be god tier wank.
 

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Weaker than 1st form Freezie Pop....if talking about their current selves. :troll

There's no need to believe Kaioshits was referring to anything less than Freeza's full power, unless you're trying to make a chain of Freeza> Base Saiyans >> Kaioshits based on the very loose "evidence" presented in BoG.
 

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RoF contradicts the notion of Base Saiyans being weaker than Freeza, but Kaboom doesn't give a shit :ladd :ladd :ladd
 

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Tapion said:
RoF contradicts the notion of Base Saiyans being weaker than Freeza, but Kaboom doesn't give a shit :ladd :ladd :ladd

Can you tell me when exactly? I'd like to show this to him and everybody on Kanz one day.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Tapion said:
RoF contradicts the notion of Base Saiyans being weaker than Freeza, but Kaboom doesn't give a shit :ladd :ladd :ladd

Can you tell me when exactly? I'd like to show this to him and everybody on Kanz one day.

It's actually the RoF Saga on DBS. Base Gohan, who was a piece of trash at the time, was shown sparring evenly with Piccolo and was even implied to be stronger.

Don't even bother. I've already seen a guy doing it and i've done it myself when i had a debate with him once. He simply can't change his point of view
 

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Tapion said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Tapion said:
RoF contradicts the notion of Base Saiyans being weaker than Freeza, but Kaboom doesn't give a shit :ladd :ladd :ladd

Can you tell me when exactly? I'd like to show this to him and everybody on Kanz one day.

It's actually the RoF Saga on DBS. Base Gohan, who was a piece of trash at the time, was shown sparring evenly with Piccolo and was even implied to be stronger.

Don't even bother. I've already seen a guy doing it and i've done it myself when i had a debate with him once. He simply can't change his point of view

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Tapion said:
It's actually the RoF Saga on DBS. Base Gohan, who was a piece of trash at the time, was shown sparring evenly with Piccolo and was even implied to be stronger.
To be fair, it was somewhat implied that SS2 Gohan > SSJ Gotenks during that arc.
 

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Don't talk about that irrelevant bullshit Gotenks in this series since that kid is a gag character fact.
 

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Tagoma said he attacked Gohan while Shisami had him in the bearhug because Gohan was the most dangerous member of the team. This was before any of them knew he could transform. So, Base Gohan>Piccolo. Gohan had to stop Tagoma from beating the shit outta Piccolo. He also tells everyone to stay back while he fights Ginyu on his own. He's definitely portrayed as the strongest prior to transforming.

Kaioshin>>>>100% Freeza
 

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To be fair Piccolo could have been heavily suppressed not to mention he had weights on.
 

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