Is Super Saiyan Blue stronger than Super Saiyan God?

[Dragonball Black]

So why is it that Super Saiyan God seems to be stronger than Super Saiyan Blue? Not only did it match beerus almost, it even began disrupting the very fabric of reality. It also seems to be an actual transformation, giving goku iris's and making him leaner and taller. In comparison the super saiayn blue transformation keeps the user frankly the same, but it also has been taken down by a common ray gun. Even Hit was able to take SSB vegeta down through hitting his pressure points. It would make sense for Blue to be stronger because the god transformation looks like base and blue looks like a super saiyan. Actually even the way goku describes it makes it seem weaker. He says in resurrection of f that he got a "taste" of super saiyan god and now he can go into it while super saiyan. With all this evidence, to me shows that super saiyan god is stronger, but its fatal shortcoming is it doesnt last very long.
[youtube]K2I4CqtUnV0[/youtube]

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Goku still can't control the God Ki in SSG form unlike SSJB form which he already master it with Vegeta.

 

[Pyro]

It's stated a few times that Super Saiyan Blue is the strongest form.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Feats: Super Saiyan God>Super Saiyan Blue
Statements: Super Saiyan Blue>Super Saiyan God

When Goku fought Hit in the Manga, he transformed into Super Saiyan God and later Super Saiyan Blue to gain a greater advantage.

 

[freezamite]

Feats: Super Saiyan God>Super Saiyan Blue
Statements: Super Saiyan Blue>Super Saiyan God

When Goku fought Hit in the Manga, he transformed into Super Saiyan God and later Super Saiyan Blue to gain a greater advantage.

Yes, the manga of DBS is such a superior and better thought product it isn't even funny. In fact, judging the feats in DBS anime, a (possibly godly) SSJ2 would also be stronger than a SSJBlue hehehehe

 

[Papasmurf]

I never got the logic behind so many people nitpicking the feat inconsistency in DBS. Sure the product is full of flaws, undeniably so, but they do realize that the original manga did the exact same thing where Cell's feat of being able to blow up the solar system wasn't replicated and Boo blew off only 1/10th of the Earth, right?

 

[freezamite]

I never got the logic behind so many people nitpicking the feat inconsistency in DBS. Sure the product is full of flaws, undeniably so, but they do realize that the original manga did the exact same thing where Cell's feat of being able to blow up the solar system wasn't replicated and Boo blew off only 1/10th of the Earth, right?

Boo blew off only 1/10th of the Earh? Kid Bu destroyed the earth or are you speaking of a different event?
And regarding Cell not backing his feat, that happened a lot in the manga (Vegeta also claimed that he could destroy the earth back in the saiyan saga although that can be considered a lie to make sure Goku doesn't dodge the attack) but at least there was a consistency in that if a character couldn't do something, a weaker character couldn't do it either (and of course, you never saw factually weaker characters surpassing much stronger characters only because the plot needed it and without any reason behind).

 

[Papasmurf]

 

[freezamite]

Well, in DB the AoE varies depending on the attack and where it's fired. Maybe Cell would've been able to destroy the whole solar system but not with a single KameHame Ha that's for sure.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I never got the logic behind so many people nitpicking the feat inconsistency in DBS. Sure the product is full of flaws, undeniably so, but they do realize that the original manga did the exact same thing where Cell's feat of being able to blow up the solar system wasn't replicated and Boo blew off only 1/10th of the Earth, right?

Boo blew off only 1/10th of the Earh? Kid Bu destroyed the earth or are you speaking of a different event?
And regarding Cell not backing his feat, that happened a lot in the manga (Vegeta also claimed that he could destroy the earth back in the saiyan saga although that can be considered a lie to make sure Goku doesn't dodge the attack) but at least there was a consistency in that if a character couldn't do something, a weaker character couldn't do it either (and of course, you never saw factually weaker characters surpassing much stronger characters only because the plot needed it and without any reason behind).

Why would Vegeta lied about it?

 

[freezamite]

Boo blew off only 1/10th of the Earh? Kid Bu destroyed the earth or are you speaking of a different event?
And regarding Cell not backing his feat, that happened a lot in the manga (Vegeta also claimed that he could destroy the earth back in the saiyan saga although that can be considered a lie to make sure Goku doesn't dodge the attack) but at least there was a consistency in that if a character couldn't do something, a weaker character couldn't do it either (and of course, you never saw factually weaker characters surpassing much stronger characters only because the plot needed it and without any reason behind).

Why would Vegeta lied about it?

Because he knew Goku wanted to protect the earth, so telling him that dodging means the earth's destruction prevents Goku from dodging the attack.
Goku has also lied multiple times and Vegeta did it as well (in fact, against Cell he does the same although there he couldn't use the earth's destruction as a bait because Cell doesn't give a shit about the planet).

Considering the feats we later see and knowing that lying is part of the Z-warriors tactics (vegeta does it against A20, and Goku lies nearly in every saga -he lies to Ginew, to Freezer and also regarding Fat Bu's strength) I think it's the most reasonable explanation for that scene.

 

[Boo Brand Milk]

It ain't got shit on future enraged ssj2!

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Boo blew off only 1/10th of the Earh? Kid Bu destroyed the earth or are you speaking of a different event?
And regarding Cell not backing his feat, that happened a lot in the manga (Vegeta also claimed that he could destroy the earth back in the saiyan saga although that can be considered a lie to make sure Goku doesn't dodge the attack) but at least there was a consistency in that if a character couldn't do something, a weaker character couldn't do it either (and of course, you never saw factually weaker characters surpassing much stronger characters only because the plot needed it and without any reason behind).

Why would Vegeta lied about it?

Because he knew Goku wanted to protect the earth, so telling him that dodging means the earth's destruction prevents Goku from dodging the attack.
Goku has also lied multiple times and Vegeta did it as well (in fact, against Cell he does the same although there he couldn't use the earth's destruction as a bait because Cell doesn't give a shit about the planet).

Considering the feats we later see and knowing that lying is part of the Z-warriors tactics (vegeta does it against A20, and Goku lies nearly in every saga -he lies to Ginew, to Freezer and also regarding Fat Bu's strength) I think it's the most reasonable explanation for that scene.

They lie a lot sure since they'll contradict their statements later but unlike in this case Vegeta never contradict his statements.

 

[freezamite]

Why would Vegeta lied about it?

Because he knew Goku wanted to protect the earth, so telling him that dodging means the earth's destruction prevents Goku from dodging the attack.
Goku has also lied multiple times and Vegeta did it as well (in fact, against Cell he does the same although there he couldn't use the earth's destruction as a bait because Cell doesn't give a shit about the planet).

Considering the feats we later see and knowing that lying is part of the Z-warriors tactics (vegeta does it against A20, and Goku lies nearly in every saga -he lies to Ginew, to Freezer and also regarding Fat Bu's strength) I think it's the most reasonable explanation for that scene.

They lie a lot sure since they'll contradict their statements later but unlike in this case Vegeta never contradict his statements.

True, but that's also because there was no context that allowed him to do so. There's another instance of a lie that we are never directly told by anyone it's a lie (although we can know it through the context of the scene). It's when Goku uses the KK to trick Ginew to think that he is much more powerful but in that case it was obvious to the reader since we could see the KK aura and we knew what the KK was.
In the case of Vegeta we also know that he can't survive in the outer-space so unless he was willing to commit suicide that also reinforces the idea that Vegeta's attack wasn't a planet buster per se.

You're right in that we're never told that that was a lie but I think it's a solid possibility. But even if that was the case, this would be without any doubt the more obscure lie in the whole series, so I can also accept that Vegeta could've said it sincerely.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Because he knew Goku wanted to protect the earth, so telling him that dodging means the earth's destruction prevents Goku from dodging the attack.
Goku has also lied multiple times and Vegeta did it as well (in fact, against Cell he does the same although there he couldn't use the earth's destruction as a bait because Cell doesn't give a shit about the planet).

Considering the feats we later see and knowing that lying is part of the Z-warriors tactics (vegeta does it against A20, and Goku lies nearly in every saga -he lies to Ginew, to Freezer and also regarding Fat Bu's strength) I think it's the most reasonable explanation for that scene.

They lie a lot sure since they'll contradict their statements later but unlike in this case Vegeta never contradict his statements.

True, but that's also because there was no context that allowed him to do so. There's another instance of a lie that we are never directly told by anyone it's a lie (although we can know it through the context of the scene). It's when Goku uses the KK to trick Ginew to think that he is much more powerful but in that case it was obvious to the reader since we could see the KK aura and we knew what the KK was.
In the case of Vegeta we also know that he can't survive in the outer-space so unless he was willing to commit suicide that also reinforces the idea that Vegeta's attack wasn't a planet buster per se.

You're right in that we're never told that that was a lie but I think it's a solid possibility. But even if that was the case, this would be without any doubt the more obscure lie in the whole series, so I can also accept that Vegeta could've said it sincerely.

Vegeta was pissed off and delusional so he doesn't care about his safety whether he'll die or not. There's no reason for him to lie though.

 

[Future Warrior]

SSG Goku > SSB Vegetto and Merged Zamasu in terms of feats