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It's been laid out fairly well for how Merged Zamasu probably isn't even that far above Base Vegetto, let alone a transformed state of his. It's kind of laughable, but it puts into perspective how big the gap is between Beerus and the Saiyans. The Complete Blues could fight evenly with Zamasu, but Blue Vegetto is barely above Beerus. Phew.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
How is he not that much above Vegetto? We legit only have like one panel of normal Vegetto.
Zamasu states "Oh well, I suppose one hour will be enough." The wording seems to suggest Base Vegetto isn't someone he can simply oneshot.
 

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Zamasu did know he can transform.

Besides why would they use SSJB, if they could settle for SSJ, after-all the fact that they were too powerful as SSJB could have crossed their mind?
 

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Why would Zamasu assume Vegetto can transform if he has no idea who or what he is?
 

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Maybe I agree. I thought some stuff through. Still though SSJB >>> SSJG is quite clear and I don't take the "less than 10%" statement as strictly as others do, if the story says it's less than 1% (later-on) then it is so to me. Not technically wrong, just Whis' wording would sound weird.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Zamasu did know he can transform.
That's questionable. After all, Gotenks couldn't go SSJ in base until after the Rosat training and Zamasu had no experience dealing with transforming Potara fusions due to it being an ability reserved for Shin-jin. It's plausible he believed Vegetto couldn't transform, especially considering his reaction to seeing Vegetto do just that.

Besides why would they use SSJB, if they could settle for SSJ, after-all the fact that they were too powerful as SSJB could have crossed their mind?
As I've mentioned before, the necessity to give Zamasu no chance of using his immortality. Even if SSJ Vegetto could stomp him, there was no guarantee they could override his regeneration threshold, especially when the gap between Base Zamasu and SSG Goku wasn't enough to cut it. Hitting him with everything they had was Vegetto's best and only alternative. This is made very apparent by Vegetto Blue even saying he'd give Zamasu no time to regenerate.

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Maybe I agree. I thought some stuff through. Still though SSJB >>> SSJG is quite clear and I don't take the "less than 10%" statement as strictly as others do, if the story says it's less than 1% (later-on) then it is so to me. Not technically wrong, just Whis' wording would sound weird.
It still makes sense for him to be close to 10%, otherwise why wouldn't Whis say another relevant benchmark percentage such as 5% or 1% if that were the closer amount?
 

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All I'm saying about Whis' statement is if later stuff makes it so that's it's even a-lot less than 10% than it technically wouldn't be wrong and there'd be no reason to hesitate to go even lower because Whis' statement still wouldn't really be contradicted.
 

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Pyro said:
Why would Zamasu assume Vegetto can transform if he has no idea who or what he is?

Why would he assume that he can’t? Did Goku and Vegeta not merge right in front of him? Why would he assume they can’t transform when he knows nothing about Saiyan potara merging.
 

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Zamas was weary over beating a pre-Senzu base Vegetto. SS Vegetto would slaughter CSSB Goku.
 

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Super Saiyan said:
Pyro said:
Why would Zamasu assume Vegetto can transform if he has no idea who or what he is?

Why would he assume that he can’t? Did Goku and Vegeta not merge right in front of him? Why would he assume they can’t transform when he knows nothing about Saiyan potara merging.

He didn't know Goku and Vegeta had merged.
 

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Pyro said:
Super Saiyan said:
Pyro said:
Why would Zamasu assume Vegetto can transform if he has no idea who or what he is?

Why would he assume that he can’t? Did Goku and Vegeta not merge right in front of him? Why would he assume they can’t transform when he knows nothing about Saiyan potara merging.

He didn't know Goku and Vegeta had merged.

Wait what? I don’t remember the sequence at all I guess. I thought they were in a bunch of smoke and merged. Would he not know it was them given he himself is a potara user?
 

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Super Saiyan said:
Pyro said:
Super Saiyan said:
Why would he assume that he can’t? Did Goku and Vegeta not merge right in front of him? Why would he assume they can’t transform when he knows nothing about Saiyan potara merging.

He didn't know Goku and Vegeta had merged.

Wait what? I don’t remember the sequence at all I guess. I thought they were in a bunch of smoke and merged. Would he not know it was them given he himself is a potara user?
I just had to reread it to be sure, too. Zamasu had no idea they were going to fuse and was wondering how long they were going to hide from him. He asked what "that form" was and Vegetto explained about the fusion. Also, does this look like Zamasu expected a transformation?

https://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/107/4212/36.png

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He’s shocked at the powa.
 

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