Kaio-Ken x20 SSj-Blue Goku (Torunament of Power) vs Mutated Zamas

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Anime

Who wins?

 

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While Goku is much stronger, Zamasu would probably outlast him due to pseudo-immortality and Kaioken strain.

 

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While Goku is much stronger, Zamasu would probably outlast him due to immortality and Kaioken strain.

You think Goku got close to this Zamas?

 

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While Goku is much stronger, Zamasu would probably outlast him due to immortality and Kaioken strain.

You think Goku got close to this Zamas?

Do I think Current SSB Goku is close to this Zamasu? Hell no, but with Kaioken x10 he would put up a fight and with x20 he would crush him, though with the stamina issues and Zamasu being so damn hard to kill I doubt it would be enough to truly defeat him.

 

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While Goku is much stronger, Zamasu would probably outlast him due to immortality and Kaioken strain.

You think Goku got close to this Zamas?

Do I think Current SSB Goku is close to this Zamasu? Hell no, but with Kaioken x10 he would put up a fight and with x20 he would crush him, though with the stamina issues and Zamasu being so damn hard to kill I doubt it would be enough to truly defeat him.

I meant to say "this close", but then actually said "this Zamas", I think.

So:

Kaio-Ken x20 Goku > Zamas > Kaio-Ken x10 Goku?

 

[Animelover5487]

You think Goku got close to this Zamas?

Do I think Current SSB Goku is close to this Zamasu? Hell no, but with Kaioken x10 he would put up a fight and with x20 he would crush him, though with the stamina issues and Zamasu being so damn hard to kill I doubt it would be enough to truly defeat him.

I meant to say "this close", but then actually said "this Zamas", I think.

So:

Kaio-Ken x20 Goku > Zamas > Kaio-Ken x10 Goku?

Yeah unless Goku could do Kaioken x20 in Blue at that point but nothing really implies it.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Episode: 110
Time: 04:58-05:36
Context: The U7 Gods thinks that Goku has reach his limit and amazed by Jiren's power
Whis: "It appears he's at the limit of his limit. Meanwhile, Jiren appears to be far from full power."
Supreme Kai: "This power feels different from anyone we've ever faced before. He's strong. Plain and simple."
Whis: "I daresay... like a God of Destruction. He is one who has reached that state. Perhaps even surpassed it. "There is a universe where lives a mortal even a God of Destruction can't defeat." It appears the rumor is true."

According to Kaioshin, it's Jiren who surpassed anyone they've faced before and I don't have a problem if it includes Vegito as well. Which likely confirms that Goku even at his Blue and KK20X is likely inferior to Vegito or Space Zamasu.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Assuming this is taking away Zamasu's immortality, Galu oneshots. He already overpowered Halo Zamasu with just regular Kaioken, and I wasn't given the impression his Mutated form was some several-fold power up.

 

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Assuming this is taking away Zamasu's immortality, Galu oneshots. He already overpowered Halo Zamasu with just regular Kaioken, and I wasn't given the impression his Mutated form was some several-fold power up.

But Mutated Zamas fought somewhat on-par with Vegetto.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If anything, that just shows that anime-wise SSB Vegetto isn't leagues above Kaioken Blue Galu.

 

[Future Warrior]

Goku would have probably used Kaio-Ken x10 instead if it was that much stronger.

As for the fight itself, I'd give to Mutated Zamas.

 

[SIAD]

I find it all depends on whether Goku had access to the SSJB Kaioken x20. At least I'm thinking about that, since I had trained a few months after the Universe 6 and 7 Tournament and then had strengthened a lot in his matches against Goku Black. Then I trained 6 months to face against Hit Time Jump, then 6 months left to train. Therefore, I would not be surprised if I could have the SSJB Kaioken x20.

In that case, even Mutado Zamasu is> = Goku SSJB Kaioken x20 (Kamehameha)> = Goku SSJB Kaioken x20, as only Vegetto SSJB can hit him.