Kefla vs Toppo - Let's settle this once and for all!

[Flame]

There aren't massive power differences of Goki's Ultra Instinct times. Kefla is stronger than Goki's first appearance with it. Goki fought even with Jiren who made Vegeta look like an amateur, the same Vegeta who beat Toppo.

Jiren>Kefla SS2>UI Goku (1st)>USSB Vegeta>=Toppo (Destructo Wannabe)

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

It makes perfect sense because it would make everything relevant and consistent. And no you're wrong, Goku as a SsjB had his instances on Episode 122 while fighting Jiren, so it would make perfect sense. Vegeta tried to attack the Jiren who fought Goku from that episode but Jiren didn't even feel the punches, but when Vegeta did attack him afterwards Jiren started sweating and feeling pain, only to see that statement flying.

> SSB Goku performing well against a Jiren above his UI form.
> Relevant and consistent

Um, yes it does make sense, Goku simply got stronger/ If you argue that, then it's easily plausible and would make far more sense

It's not something that hasn't happened before

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

So suddenly Blue Goku and Blue Vegeta are ahead of 2nd UI Goku and SS2 Kefla? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The only logical option for Vegeta's reference is when Jiren fought UI Goku. Goku and Vegeta didn't just suddenly become 50x stronger in their Blue forms.

Why wouldn't they? Goku was weaker than Goku Black and suddenly surpassed Halo Zamasu who's far beyond Goku Black

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