King Piccolo vs Yamcha (23rd Budokai)

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Piccolo Daimao likely has the power advantage, given how high a pedestal post-Choshinsui Goku is treat until the finals with Tenshithands being amazed Goku could increase his strength far more than what it was 3 years ago and him considering a speed not too far above that Goku's as slow making Kuririn say a similar line of them being too far above him as he did with Ten oneshotting Taopaipai. Yamcha will cause Daimao difficulties with the Sokidan, but it won't be a game changer, unlike Daimao's Bakurikimaha which can obliterate an equal opponent if it hits directly. Daimao wins with high-diff.
 

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Not at all. Yamcha was completely tooled by Shen and his best attack only dealt some slight superficial damage. Daimao would still win, but Yamcha would be by no means a pushover and the Sokidan would deal a fair bit of damage to Piccolo.
 

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What makes you think Shen is much stronger than Piccolo Daimao was?
 

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Yamcha/Kuririn aren't treat as trash to Daimao tier, given Piccolo still bothered to treat Kuririn with some respect and his statement of world domination not being so easy, despite the audience already being aware he was above his previous incarnation, whereas Yamcha was absolutely nothing to Shen.
 

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They think Goku's speed is amazing though. Doesn't sound like they rival Goku's speed, which hasn't changed over 3 years...

Goku (vs PD) >> Yamcha/Krillen.
 

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Yamcha high or extreme diffs wins 6/10 tanks to skill, unless Daimao fires a Bakurikimaha. I think they are about equals.
 

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Why?

Weighted Goku's speed >= Kid Goku >= PD. There's still some gap between Yamcha and Goku's speed here. And Goku wasn't out of Yamcha's sight.
 

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Weighted Goku's Speed can be either equal or slightly above his previous speed. That comes down to personal preference.

Weighted Goku's Speed is >> Yamcha. Not so much that Yamcha can't see, but it's seen as an amazing, incredible speed. It's far above Yamcha for sure.
 

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p123 said:
They think Goku's speed is amazing though.
They didn't. They were only amazed at how Tenshithands found it to be slow, unless the Viz cut out part of the statement.
 

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That's what I mean. If that's slow!!
If they can't keep up with Tiens speed, Gokus speed has to be able to completely own them as well.
 

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I got Yamcha at 73% of Piccolo Daimao. They've largely caught up, but they still aren't there quite yet in my book.
 

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p123 said:
I got Yamcha at 73% of Piccolo Daimao. They've largely caught up, but they still aren't there quite yet in my book.

It would make no sense for Piccolo Jr to be introduced as a stronger version of the last villain only to use less power
than the last villain in his first important fight (Krillin). Therefore, Krillin/Yamcha are at least KP tier.
 

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Weighted Goku Speed = Goku vs PD speed?

Yes or no
 

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Later he said his speed didn't change. Either way, it's not significant enough to change things.

Nothing suggests that Tien vs Goku isn't the fastest, most powerful fight.

Shen vs Yamcha and Piccolo vs Krillen are not faster than Goku vs Tien.
 

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p123 said:
Weighted Goku's Speed can be either equal or slightly above his previous speed. That comes down to personal preference.

Weighted Goku's Speed is >> Yamcha. Not so much that Yamcha can't see, but it's seen as an amazing, incredible speed. It's far above Yamcha for sure.

He's slightly above it IMO. Tenshinhan says he's marginally faster than 3 years ago.

Wouldn't Weighted Goku's speed be >> Daimao as well? Kid Goku was outspeeding Daimao at almost every turn, and Weighted Goku is even faster than that. Weighted Goku isn't far above Yamcha if Yamcha can comfortably track him and isn't dumbfoundes until Tenshinhan calls it slow.
 

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