Koyama's thoughts on "Battle Of Gods

[Pakl]

Even though the truth of new movie villains being stronger than the last ones was revealed (something I always said) there are still newboobs who try to twist it because of their bias. That comes especially to Broli. People deny the fact that Bojack > M8 Broli and discredit it as an excuse of Bio Broli being weaker than M10 Broli so that means M8 Broli is also stronger than Bojack. That's also because Koyama said he had an hard time making a character stronger than Broli.

Time to debunk those biased excuses. First let's see what Koyama actually says.

And so, as for substance of the issue at hand…….

In handling the scripts for the films, what I always worried about each time was the problem of what to do about the opponent Goku fights against. That’s because, at the very least, they had to be stronger than [the ones from] the previous movie.
After much hard work, I was unable to come up with an opponent stronger than Broli, and fell into a rut where I made him appear three times.
That is to say, there’s the matter of questioning the idea of Broli as the strongest. As you are well aware, vehement opinions on the subject have been flying back and forth on this message board, as well as a variety of [other] websites.

Notice the bold? That means new movie villains are stronger than the previous ones

As for Bio Broli, the only reason that he is not stronger is because he fought weaker opponents. Not only this but it's also explained by Koyama who says he could not find an opponent stronger than Broli so he made him appear THREE times. He basically explains why Bio Broli is weaker and that's because he could not find someone stronger than Broli referring to his movie 10 self. That also debunks the argument of M8 Broli being stronger than Bojack since Koyama refers that he could not find a stronger opponent than M10 Broli which is why he made Broli appear three times. So M8 Broli being relevant to Bojack is a twisted excuse.

Another argument is the fact Koyama said that new movie villains should be stronger than the ones the same Goku fought but since he never faced Bojack so it doesn't make Bojack stronger than M8 Broli

That's just another bull argument. Koyama mentions Goku because he is the main hero. He appears in most of the movies, he represents DBZ so he mentions him. Koyama overall means that new movie villains are stronger than the last ones.

Bojack > M8 Broli is a fact. Stop twisting things just to overrate Broli. B-)

 

[Pyro]

A fact if you say so. It doesn't really affect me one way or the other. They're both irrelevant villains now.

 

[SSJ2]

Debunked by Beerus > Golden Freeza

 

[p123]

Nice Pakl always has good stuff regarding Broly shit. Why are you so obsessed with Broly man?

 

[SIAD]

Very true, but you can see how Golden Frieza> Beerus (70%).

 

[Pakl]

Debunked by Beerus > Golden Freeza

This is canon
Besides Beerus showed 70% and freeza is stronger

P123, not obssesed just annoyed tgat people say he can beat Cell or Bojack in movie 8 when he is just CG Goku level

 

[SSJ2]

But we know he could go up to 100%, it was mentioned in the movie.

 

[Six Trails]

In handling the scripts for the films, what I always worried about each time was the problem of what to do about the opponent Goku fights against. That’s because, at the very least, they had to be stronger than [the ones from] the previous movie.

Unless you consider one punch to the face a fight, then Goku didn't really fight Bojack.

 

[Pakl]

But we know he could go up to 100%, it was mentioned in the movie.

And? He never showed that

Its canon

 

[Pakl]

In handling the scripts for the films, what I always worried about each time was the problem of what to do about the opponent Goku fights against. That’s because, at the very least, they had to be stronger than [the ones from] the previous movie.

Unless you consider one punch to the face a fight, then Goku didn't really fight Bojack.

Addressed it

Mentioning Goku is not literal... its the movies overall

 

[Six Trails]

You didn't address it...you made up an arbitrary rule to support you argument...like you always do.

 

[Pakl]

No.... you have to be biased to say its proof Broli is not weake

He doesnt say Goku because only the villains who fought Goku are stronger but because Goku is the main character who appears in most of the movies

He meant movie villains are stronger overall

 

[Six Trails]

I don't believe M8 Broly is stronger than Bojack, I was just pointing out that your evidence is shaky at best. Also, someone not agreeing with you doesn't make them biased.

How do you know he meant movie villains overall? If he mentions only the ones Goku fought then there's no reason to include villains who Goku didn't fight. That's grasping at straws.

 

[Pakl]

Grasping at straws is what you do

Do I seriously have to explain it?

I guess M10 Broli is weaker than M8 Broli because Goiu never fought him

Goku is the main hero so mentioning him is mentioning DBZ.... his point was that new villains > old villains... thats because yhe z fighters get stronger in every arc

 

[Six Trails]

Explain what? The rule you made up?

You're either misinterpreting my post or being condescending for no reason. Not fighting Goku doesn't automatically make the movie villain weaker than the last movie villain who fought Goku. Just that a movie villain only has to surpass the old one if both fought Goku.

his point was that new villains > old villains...

Bio Broly > M10 Broly?

 

[Pakl]

Explain what? The rule you made up?

You're either misinterpreting my post or being condescending for no reason. Not fighting Goku doesn't automatically make the movie villain weaker than the last movie villain who fought Goku. Just that a movie villain only has to surpass the old one if both fought Goku.

his point was that new villains > old villains...

Bio Broly > M10 Broly?

The point was that new movie villains are stronger... not only Goku.... Goku is mentioned because he is the main character who appears in the movies

Bio Broli is explained to be an exception... he said he made Broli three times because he could not find someone stronger

Also Bio Broli fought weaker z fighters do he is weaker...

M9 Z fighters > M8 Z fighters

Bojack > M8 Broli

You made up a rule... You twist his meaning...

 

[Fantastische Hure]

pakl are u the pikachu fellow on pojo???