Late Freeza Arcs Numbers...

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Yoshi said:
Okay, I have extensive knowledge on Battle Powers too, so P asked me to make a thread about the late Freeza Arc numbers. I don't follow the Guidebook numbers for them (120,000,000 and 150,000,000, for example), so my numbers are a lot more bloated.

Overall, I think the biggest issue in this Arc is Piccolo VS Freeza. There are instances where each of them power up in this portion of the Arc.

Here's what I have:

2nd Suppression Form Initial: 1,000,000
2nd Suppression Form Powered Up: 1,200,000
Piccolo Initial: 1,200,000
2nd Suppression Form Full Power: 1,500,000
Piccolo Full Power: 1,800,000
1st Suppression Form: 2,700,000

What do you think? Feel free to post your numbers, as well.
Piccolo seems to high over FP Freeza, I don't really see that in the story.
 

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Yeah, that's also a problem... Freeza did transform, but he doesn't know how to sense Ki. I like to believe Piccolo is stronger in that instance, though.
 

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p123 said:
Why amplified so much?
Well, at Saiyans Saga, Gohan's greatest blast was minimally amplified, yet, when he attacked 3rd Form Freeza,
he produced out of his ass an amplifier of 2x. If a 5 year old inexperienced child could do that, i think i must
also give Goku/Vegeta greater amplifiers than their Saiyan Saga counterparts.
 

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Gohan was enraged when he attacked 3rd form Freeza though. Didn't he also land a few decent melee attacks?
 

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Gohan only landed punches and kicks against 2nd form Freeza, not 3rd. 3rd dodged his kick off the bat before Gohan flew above him and shot the Masenko.
 

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Alright. Either way, Gohan's rage should still be contributing a lot to his Masenko's power imo.
 

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Alright so for Piccolo let's go with this.


2nd Form Powered Up is 95-98% of Piccolo Weighted

Weighted Piccolo is 82-86% of 2nd Form FP

2nd Form FP is 90+% of Unweighted Piccolo

Unweighted Piccolo is 70% of 3rd Form Freeza


How does that sound to everyone?
 

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Kyo said:
Alright. Either way, Gohan's rage should still be contributing a lot to his Masenko's power imo.
Here's how i have it (along with my other numbers i posted)...

Gohan (pre zenkai)
-normal: 350.000
-enraged: 1.050.000

Gohan (post zenkai)
-normal: 475.000
-enraged: 1.425.000
-full power blast (2x): 2.850.000
 

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