Least favorite generation of Pokemon?
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Probably Gen 3 because it has too much water. 7.8/10
Seriously though, it's still Gen 3, but mainly because Team Aqua and Magma take dumb evil teams to the extreme. How either of them thought they'd benefit from either a great deluge or complete absence of water is beyond me and just suggests their members must have a collective IQ as high as Shuckle's base speed. Whilst Gen 3 did bring a lot of good mechanics to the game such as Abilities, the physical/special split was highly flawed and resulted in a lot of types (Dark especially) getting made redundant until Gen 4 saved everything in that regard.
It also probably has the highest amount of Pokemon I consider to either be just Dex fillers or generally bottom tier, even if excluding tropes such as the Route 1 normie: Azurill, Delcatty, Plusle, Minun, Volbeat, Illumise, Grumpig, Chimecho, Wynaut and most of all Luvdisc each being highly pointless when there were better choices for a team in the games or better concepts for similar Pokemon in general.
If including remakes as part of the generation they were introduced, FRLG salvages Gen 3 somewhat and makes Gen 1 the ultimate loser due to becoming absolutely dated by default.
Seriously though, it's still Gen 3, but mainly because Team Aqua and Magma take dumb evil teams to the extreme. How either of them thought they'd benefit from either a great deluge or complete absence of water is beyond me and just suggests their members must have a collective IQ as high as Shuckle's base speed. Whilst Gen 3 did bring a lot of good mechanics to the game such as Abilities, the physical/special split was highly flawed and resulted in a lot of types (Dark especially) getting made redundant until Gen 4 saved everything in that regard.
It also probably has the highest amount of Pokemon I consider to either be just Dex fillers or generally bottom tier, even if excluding tropes such as the Route 1 normie: Azurill, Delcatty, Plusle, Minun, Volbeat, Illumise, Grumpig, Chimecho, Wynaut and most of all Luvdisc each being highly pointless when there were better choices for a team in the games or better concepts for similar Pokemon in general.
If including remakes as part of the generation they were introduced, FRLG salvages Gen 3 somewhat and makes Gen 1 the ultimate loser due to becoming absolutely dated by default.
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I thought nothing about the physical/special split really changed until Gen 4? Or are you simply faulting Gen 3 for having the same flaw as 1-2? Wording doesn't seem to suggest such.
Gen 3 probably introduced the most changes which led us to what we know as the game today (though the most important is arguably still Gen 4's physical/special split in my opinion). Not just abilities, but natures, reworked berries, a usable PC. Some of the most important moves were introduced in this gen (although Gen 4 mostly finished this job by introducing a similar number to fully complement the physical/special split).
In terms of criticism, I'm a little surprised you didn't bring up RSE's rival character. That rival is easily the most underwhelming of the series -- a more experienced trainer initially who constantly loses to you and just sort of accepts that they're a loser, only to stop being a trainer altogether before you even finish your adventure. (The remakes give the two of you a battle after the E4, but that's pretty damn underwhelming since they're significantly weaker than the E4 you just beat).
I think Gen 1 is the worst, FRLG or not.
Gen 3 probably introduced the most changes which led us to what we know as the game today (though the most important is arguably still Gen 4's physical/special split in my opinion). Not just abilities, but natures, reworked berries, a usable PC. Some of the most important moves were introduced in this gen (although Gen 4 mostly finished this job by introducing a similar number to fully complement the physical/special split).
In terms of criticism, I'm a little surprised you didn't bring up RSE's rival character. That rival is easily the most underwhelming of the series -- a more experienced trainer initially who constantly loses to you and just sort of accepts that they're a loser, only to stop being a trainer altogether before you even finish your adventure. (The remakes give the two of you a battle after the E4, but that's pretty damn underwhelming since they're significantly weaker than the E4 you just beat).
I think Gen 1 is the worst, FRLG or not.
I'm surprised you feel this way about Gen 4 more strongly than Gen 5.
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Gen 3 made moves physical or special based on types, making some Pokemon completely flawed (eg. Bite and Crunch being ruined when most of the Pokemon with it being physical attackers).Kyo said:
I'd say the Gen 6 rivals being your stock "Ur mah Nakama" gang akin to OG Yu-Gi-Oh, being even bigger pushovers and just getting in your way moreso than helping make Gen 3 May/Brendan tolerable by comparison. Would've also mentioned Hau being unrealistically happy 24/7, though USUM improved him slightly.
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You're right about Gen 6. I forgot about them, mostly because I've personally never played through X/Y. They pretty much don't qualify as rivals in my mind.
Anyway, moves being physical/special based on type was the case since Gen 1. It took longer than it should have to change, but yeah.
I want to say that Dark being special since its introduction in Gen 2 was a bug or oversight since every Dark pokemon (except maybe like, Houndoom) was a physical attacker and every pre-Gen 4 Dark move went on to become physical eventually, but I can't find a source on that. I know I've heard it.
Anyway, moves being physical/special based on type was the case since Gen 1. It took longer than it should have to change, but yeah.
I want to say that Dark being special since its introduction in Gen 2 was a bug or oversight since every Dark pokemon (except maybe like, Houndoom) was a physical attacker and every pre-Gen 4 Dark move went on to become physical eventually, but I can't find a source on that. I know I've heard it.
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I haven't played past Gen 5, but Black/White and Black 2/White 2 are some of my favorites. Some of the pokemon are definitely not that great, but I still found them more likeable than Gen 4's. Sawk was cool.
Gen 5 has the most content of any of the games I played. Leveling up Pokemon was actually enjoyable.
Gen 5 has the most content of any of the games I played. Leveling up Pokemon was actually enjoyable.
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Agreed completely on Gen 5. It had some absolute stinkers for sure (The Elemental Monkeys, Swanna, Druddigon), but the good designs were some of the best in the franchise. Excadrill, Scolipede, Krookodile, Scrafty, Jellicent, Galvantula, Chandelure, Mienshao, Golurk, Bisharp, Braviary, Hydreigon, Volcarona, Reshiram, Zekrom, Thundurus, Genesect...All great be it for their design, stats, movesets or abilities.
Also, Emolga was probably the most tolerable Pikachu clone due to the lack of Pikachu in Black/White and the Flying type made it more original than those that came before it (and is still less useless than the waste of the Fairy Type that is Dedenne).
Also, Emolga was probably the most tolerable Pikachu clone due to the lack of Pikachu in Black/White and the Flying type made it more original than those that came before it (and is still less useless than the waste of the Fairy Type that is Dedenne).
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Gen 1 definitely, it's an archaic mess. I marathoned all the gens last year and it was a complete chore to trek through 8bit Kanto again. While playing I remember how frustrated I would get during my playthroughs of the games 3-4 years ago, it's so unpolished and broken, I'm glad they fixed everything up. Gen II still holds up nicely. 2nd least favorite would be Gen 4, Platinum is fun and all, as are HG/SS, but the gen's story (main installments) are soooooo slow....
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Yeah, updating this, it's pretty inarguable that Gen 8 takes the cake in this competition with its design issues, missed opportunity with story and characters as well as some scummy tactics when it came to paid content that make it apparent how great the Gen 6 GTS truly was.
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Gen 3 for too much water. Not even being ironic - that's literally why I've never finished the game.
Inb4 "use a repel".
It's not just the water itself, but also the number of water water-type HMs. I don't use HM slaves. Trash game.
Inb4 "use a repel".
It's not just the water itself, but also the number of water water-type HMs. I don't use HM slaves. Trash game.
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Also too many legendaries. Latios and Latinas are lame asf (two fat as fuck dinosaurs that only have stat differences and different colours). I don't use legendaries because it's boring as hell compared to using a variety of pokemon that you choose for various regions and raised from a low level, instead of "lol this is strong as fuark and Nintendo told me it's special, even though about 30,000 kids are all using the same pokemon"). It's like going on a porn site and sorting by most popular - enjoy jacking to the leftovers of 10,000,000 other guys.
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Gen 3's amount of Legendaries is pretty tiny compared to Gens 4 and 5.
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I think Ultra Sun/Moon edge out ORAS slightly for that title, since Ultra Wormholes offer all those of the Mirage Islands as well as a few more such as Mewtwo.
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Gen 1 in terms of just playability. Gen 8 overall otherwise. Before Gen 8 I'd have probably said.........6. The games all feel good to play QoL-wise, but it lacks any outstanding titles, whereas the other gens all at least had a standout or two like Emerald, Platinum, HGSS etc, if they were lacking in other areas (7 didn't but it just edges out 6 probably....though the games in 6 are definitely more replayable).
