Linoone

[SSJ2]

I just got one in randoms and didn't know it could be OP.

Is it viable to use in a team?

 

[Uchiha]

Too fragile to be used in OU, but works in tiers below that

 

[Doctor Havoc]

i think you will like azumarill, it can also run a bellydrum set, with a priority move

 

[SSJ2]

I'll look at Azumarill as I need a water type I think.

@Linoone: What about a fully defensive Linoone with Baton Pass?

 

[Uchiha]

Don't think it can learn baton pass.

 

[SSJ2]

You're right.

What if say, you use a staller to baton pass a defense boost to it?

 

[Uchiha]

You can use scollipede @ focus sash to baton pass iron defense. It'll give it a nice speed boost too.

 

[SSJ2]

Isn't it banned tho?

 

[Uchiha]

Don't think so...

 

[Six Trails]

You can't Baton Pass Speed + one other stat, it's either one or the other. Unless you're talking about Ubers.

 

[SSJ2]

Don't think so...

Smogon has it under some tier called BL.

 

[Six Trails]

Don't think so...

Smogon has it under some tier called BL.

Borderline. Banned from UU, but not used enough to be considered OU.

 

[SSJ2]

Ah I see.

And let me get this straight too. Can a UU be used in OU?

 

[Uchiha]

You can't Baton Pass Speed + one other stat, it's either one or the other. Unless you're talking about Ubers.

really? you can't baton pass a swords dance on top of a speed bost?

 

[Six Trails]

Ah I see.

And let me get this straight too. Can a UU be used in OU?

Yes. Anyone Pokémon not in Ubers can be used in OU.

 

[Six Trails]

You can't Baton Pass Speed + one other stat, it's either one or the other. Unless you're talking about Ubers.

really? you can't baton pass a swords dance on top of a speed bost?

In game you can, but Smogon has a Baton Pass clause that says you can't.

 

[Uchiha]

Ah I see.

And let me get this straight too. Can a UU be used in OU?

yup. lower tiers can be used in higher tiers. bl is in between ou and uu, but not enough pokemon to really be its own tier

 

[Uchiha]

You can't Baton Pass Speed + one other stat, it's either one or the other. Unless you're talking about Ubers.

really? you can't baton pass a swords dance on top of a speed bost?

In game you can, but Smogon has a Baton Pass clause that says you can't.

Can't find anything to support that... http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/baton-pass-clause-mark-2.3511375/

 

[Six Trails]

http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/ou/

Baton Pass Clause: Players cannot have more than one Pokémon with the move Baton Pass.
Furthermore, a Pokémon cannot have Baton Pass while also a move that boosts Speed and a move that boosts another stat.

 

[SSJ2]

So what if I used Defend Order and tried to Baton Pass? Only one stat would be passed on?