Luffy vs Kuma nowadays

[Warmmedown]

Do you reckon Luffy would be able to defeat Kuma?

circumstances: Kuma fraped Sanji and dissed his eyebrow. Luffy is bloodlusted.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Base Luffy either loses or extreme diffs this. Any Gear Luffy stomps. Kuma's lacking in feats or hype atm, unless Vegapunk gave him a massive upgrade.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Luffy wins with just G2/G3. Zoro was tagging him pre ts but then again Zoro is Zoro

 

[Papasmurf]

Luffy stomps easily.

 

[Uchiha]

Kuma's pre-TS was fairly unknown and I think his post-TS strength is still unknown. The guy has no feats at all and no hype so I wouldn't be comfortable placing him anywhere.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

If Kuma >= Ivankov, then it's no wonder post ts Sanji has been terrible. Luffy got Rayleigh and Zoro got freaking Mihawk

 

[sei'taer]

Yeah we have no real idea of Kuma's true strength even pre-timeskip.

 

[Yoshi]

It's reasonable to place him around the Pacifista. That's the only thing we have to go by really.

 

[Uchiha]

It's reasonable to place him around the Pacifista.

Based on what?

 

[Yoshi]

That's the only thing we have to go by really.

 

[Kyo]

Well in terms of durability and firepower, yeah (pre-TS anyway).

 

[Uchiha]

That's the only thing we have to go by really.

Not a solid stance then

 

[Papasmurf]

He took a solid swing from Part 1 Zoro who was severely fatigued first. Had that been Part 2 Zoro he'd have been cut in half like the Pacifista on Sabaody.

 

[OmegaZ]

I'm thinking current Luffy would one shot Kuma with his elephant gun, since current Kuma just feels like PX-0, and not Kuma.