M10 Gohan vs MSSJ Goku

[Captain Cadaver]

Obviously busy making toast again.

 

[Pakl]

The movie was terrible anyway almost like Bio Broli. Those two movies were just made like that because Goku and Vegeta could not be used yet.
That's the main reason Broli appeared three times.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The movie was terrible anyway almost like Bio Broli. Those two movies were just made like that because Goku and Vegeta could not be used yet.
That's the main reason Broli appeared three times.

They would've been made just as bad in premise and quality even if Goku and Vegeta were used. The main reason Broly appeared three times was because he was popular and had a premise easier to market for sequels, nothing more and nothing less.
Also, Movie 11 isn't even that bad compared to Movie 10. Movie 11 is just a mediocrity, whereas Movie 10 is founded on a huge plot hole/retcon.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Same thing happened in M6 and M7, base saiyans can fight toe to toe with their enemies

 

[Pakl]

The movie was terrible anyway almost like Bio Broli. Those two movies were just made like that because Goku and Vegeta could not be used yet.
That's the main reason Broli appeared three times.

They would've been made just as bad in premise and quality even if Goku and Vegeta were used. The main reason Broly appeared three times was because he was popular and had a premise easier to market for sequels, nothing more and nothing less.
Also, Movie 11 isn't even that bad compared to Movie 10. Movie 11 is just a mediocrity, whereas Movie 10 is founded on a huge plot hole/retcon.

Broli was brought back because of popularity but the reason was because there was no progression at the story as they could not use Goku and Vegeta. If it was just popularity they would bring him back in movie 9

 

[Pakl]

Same thing happened in M6 and M7, base saiyans can fight toe to toe with their enemies

I remember the days when of 2012 when the fandom was filled with ignorant fanboys who said M10 Gohan is stronger than SSjin 3 Goku because his base was rivalling SSjin Broli. Lmao

The reason he fought in base is probably because Toei copied his transformation vs Kibito. That's all

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Broli was brought back because of popularity but the reason was because there was no progression at the story as they could not use Goku and Vegeta. If it was just popularity they would bring him back in movie 9

Koyama's interview where he talks about Broly being the strongest Saiyan makes it pretty apparent that his appearance and the marketing behind it was the main reason. Him not being in Movie 9 was because Toei attempted to try to add someone different and, as pretty evident, Bojack had neither the marketing potential or popularity of Broly; a venture tried and failed. A lack of story progression is irrelevant when there was arguably even less story progression tied to Movies 2 and 3, yet the former is one of the more original scenarios out of the DBZ films. This idea of little story progression being a factor for Movie 11 bringing Broly back is simply untrue when the plot of the film itself is something that would remain unchanged whether the villain was Broly or some generic monster.

 

[joselima]

It's worth noting though that, as I said, that can also be applied to Base Goku's fight with SSJ Broly in Movie 8, with him doing better than SSJ Vegeta did. It's also worth noting that anime filler seems to present either the kids as far weaker than they should be or Base Gohan as far stronger than he should be, with there being a filler scene where he goes toe-to-toe with SSJ Goten before going SSJ.

Exactly, you are right my friend.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Why the hell wasn't Popo chosen for the ToP?

I'm pretty sure deities can't compete, otherwise the Hakaishins would've participated. Even Shin's worthless ass would've been a better addition than the humans.

 

[Papasmurf]

I'm pretty sure deities can't compete, otherwise the Hakaishins would've participated. Even Shin's worthless ass would've been a better addition than the humans.

He isn't a deity, he is an assistant for a deity (Kami/Dende). Same way Karin also isn't a deity, and same way that Zamasu and Kibito aren't legit Kaioshins, just assistants.

 

[Nèro]

Probably Gohan

 

[Nèro]

Why the hell wasn't Popo chosen for the ToP?

Pecking order.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

This thing again? Sigh

SSJ Broly >>>Zen-oh

 

[Pakl]

SSJ Broly >>>Zen-oh

 

[Hector]

M10 Gohan>=Cell Games Gohan>>Cell Games Goku

Gohan stomps.

 

[Pakl]

M10 Gohan>=Cell Games Gohan>>Cell Games Goku

Gohan stomps.

Movie 10 Gohan is the same weaker Gohan from the Boo Arc. Damn.. Stop making shits up.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Gohan says he’s much stronger since the last time he fought Broly though.

 

[Ultimate Cell]

Gohan says he’s much stronger since the last time he fought Broly though.

M8 Gohan was one of the weaker fighters in that movie. It didnt seem like he was stronger than Goku, Vegeta or Trunks. You could have him power up to where hes stronger than his m8 self, but still around his buu saga self.

 

[Hector]

Movie 10 Gohan is the same weaker Gohan from the Boo Arc. Damn.. Stop making shits up.

I place movies where they make the most sense. Movie 10 makes the most sense after Buu Saga, in a timeline where either Vegeta successfully took Fat Buu with him when he selfdestructed or Goku fought him all the way as an SSJ3. Therefore, this is Gohan post Z-Sword.

 

[Warmmedown]

SS1 Gohan by tenderisation
SSJ2 Gohan by evisceration
Just like the Cell Games would be, but worse

Base Gohan should lose going by the 50x SSJ multiplier, but then he randomly was able to get beat up less by M10 Broly (who must have had a zenkai at the very least) than SSJ Goku got beat up by M8 Broly, so guess it's not 50x here.