Manga Multipliers

[GSM123]

Wot multipliers you use on the Super Manga? I'm thinking about going with this:
SSJ: 2x
SSJ2: 2.5x
SSJ3: 5x
SSJG: 12.5x
SSJB: 25x
Sounds good?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

It looks good but what about CSSjinB?

 

[SIAD]

Anime:

Base = 1
SSJ = 50
SSJ2 = 100
SSJ3 = 200
SSJG = 6,250
SSJB = 12,500
UI = 1,000,000

Manga:

Base = 1
SSJ = 50
SSJ2 = 100
SSJ3 = 200
SSJG = 1,250
SSJB = 2,500
CSSJB = 12,500.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

SSJ = 2.5x base
SS2 = 5x base
SS3 = 10x base
SSG = 25x base
SSB = 31.25x base (regular usage), 39.0625x base (concentrated in bursts)
CSSB = 62.5x base

 

[SIAD]

SSJ = 2.5x base
SS2 = 5x base
SS3 = 10x base
SSG = 25x base
SSB = 31.25x base (regular usage), 39.0625x base (concentrated in bursts)
CSSB = 62.5x base

Do you have the multiplier of the SSJ (Post Zenkai) of Goku Black 10x its Base?

 

[GSM123]

It looks good but what about CSSjinB?

I don't think we can draw out conclusions about it yet. The only time we saw MSSJB was on MZ fight. It can be as low as 2x or as high as 50x for all we know.

SSJ = 2.5x base
SS2 = 5x base
SS3 = 10x base
SSG = 25x base
SSB = 31.25x base (regular usage), 39.0625x base (concentrated in bursts)
CSSB = 62.5x base

Do you have a BP List, CC?

 

[SIAD]

By the way CC, SSJB (Concentrated in bursts), would be Vegeta SSJB (Vs Goku Black SSJR / Manga)? And Goku SSJB (Vs Toppo / Manga)?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Do you have a BP List, CC?

Not when each episode of Super would cause constant revisions.

 

[Pyro]

At first I thought the multipliers were relatively small, but the FT arc threw that in the trash. It might be time to go with the theory that Hit purposely held back more against Goku (barring the godly forms) because he knew Blue was the pinnacle and that Goku was holding back. The Zen Exhibition match has shown us that Super Saiyan 2 still isn't a very noticeable increase, while Super Saiyan 3 and God are. I consider Goku Black to be an anomaly due to his biology, and thus whatever works works; fusions have nerfed multipliers too.

Spoiler

Base Goku (U6): 1
SSJ Goku: 50
SSJ2 Goku: 100
SSJ3 Goku: 400
SSJB Vegeta (7%): 560
SSJG Goku: 4,000
SSJB Goku: 8,000
SSJB Vegeta: 8,000

Base Black: 500
Base Black (zenkai): 5,000
SSJ Black: 1,000
SSJ Black (zenkai): 10,000
SSJR Black: 15,000*

Base Goku: 1
Zamasu: 40
SSJ Goku: 50
SSJ2 Goku: 100
SSJ3 Goku: 400
SSJ2 Vegeta: 1,200
SSJG Goku: 4,000
SSJB Goku: 8,000
CSSJB Goku: 500,000

Base Vegeta (ROAST): 3.75
SSJG Vegeta: 15,000
SSJB Vegeta: 30,000

Merged Zamasu: 100,000
Merged Zamasu (FP): 500,000

Base Vegetto: 50,000
SSJ Vegetto: 100,000
SSJ2 Vegetto: 200,000
SSJ3 Vegetto: 400,000
SSJG Vegetto: 4,000,000
SSJB Vegetto: 8,000,000
Beerus: 10,000,000
CSSJB Vegetto: 500,000,000

Multipliers
Super Saiyan: 50x (2x for Goku Black and fusions)
Super Saiyan 2: 100x (1,200x for Vegeta that one time)
Super Saiyan 3: 400x (200x for fusions)
Super Saiyan God: 4,000x
Super Saiyan Blue: 8,000x
Super Saiyan Rose: 3x
Complete Super Saiyan Blue: 500,000x

 

[SSJ2]

At first I thought the multipliers were relatively small, but the FT arc threw that in the trash. It might be time to go with the theory that Hit purposely held back more against Goku (barring the godly forms) because he knew Blue was the pinnacle and that Goku was holding back. The Zen Exhibition match has shown us that Super Saiyan 2 still isn't a very noticeable increase, while Super Saiyan 3 and God are. I consider Goku Black to be an anomaly due to his biology, and thus whatever works works; fusions have nerfed multipliers too.

Spoiler

Base Goku (U6): 1
SSJ Goku: 50
SSJ2 Goku: 100
SSJ3 Goku: 400
SSJB Vegeta (7%): 560
SSJG Goku: 4,000
SSJB Goku: 8,000
SSJB Vegeta: 8,000

Base Black: 500
Base Black (zenkai): 5,000
SSJ Black: 1,000
SSJ Black (zenkai): 10,000
SSJR Black: 15,000*

Base Goku: 1
Zamasu: 40
SSJ Goku: 50
SSJ2 Goku: 100
SSJ3 Goku: 400
SSJ2 Vegeta: 1,200
SSJG Goku: 4,000
SSJB Goku: 8,000
CSSJB Goku: 500,000

Base Vegeta (ROAST): 3.75
SSJG Vegeta: 15,000
SSJB Vegeta: 30,000

Merged Zamasu: 100,000
Merged Zamasu (FP): 500,000

Base Vegetto: 50,000
SSJ Vegetto: 100,000
SSJ2 Vegetto: 200,000
SSJ3 Vegetto: 400,000
SSJG Vegetto: 4,000,000
SSJB Vegetto: 8,000,000
Beerus: 10,000,000
CSSJB Vegetto: 500,000,000

Multipliers
Super Saiyan: 50x (2x for Goku Black and fusions)
Super Saiyan 2: 100x (1,200x for Vegeta that one time)
Super Saiyan 3: 400x (200x for fusions)
Super Saiyan God: 4,000x
Super Saiyan Blue: 8,000x
Super Saiyan Rose: 3x
Complete Super Saiyan Blue: 500,000x

 

[Pyro]

I love you, son.

 

[GSM123]

At first I thought the multipliers were relatively small, but the FT arc threw that in the trash.

When?

 

[Pyro]

SSJ Black post-zenkai and post-ROAST Vegeta.

 

[GSM123]

Manga:

Base = 1
SSJ = 50
SSJ2 = 100
SSJ3 = 200
SSJG = 1,250
SSJB = 2,500
CSSJB = 12,500.

Why SSJB is 50x SSJ? Blue Vegeta with <10% of his power was on the same realm as suppressed Hit and SSJ Goku. I find unlikely Vegeta would be below 5% of his power, otherwise we'd be given a more exact number.

SSJ = 2.5x base
SS2 = 5x base
SS3 = 10x base

Would you use this same set of multipliers to Gotenks and the other fusion tiers?

 

[Papasmurf]

I don't think Zeno even sensed the ki in any of Goku's forms considering he only commented on Goku's appearance changing in SSJ3 (and staying mostly the same in SSJ2). Given that, I'd go with something similar to CC's multipliers.

 

[SIAD]

Manga:

Base = 1
SSJ = 50
SSJ2 = 100
SSJ3 = 200
SSJG = 1,250
SSJB = 2,500
CSSJB = 12,500.

Why SSJB is 50x SSJ? Blue Vegeta with <10% of his power was on the same realm as suppressed Hit and SSJ Goku. I find unlikely Vegeta would be below 5% of his power, otherwise we'd be given a more exact number.

SSJ = 2.5x base
SS2 = 5x base
SS3 = 10x base

Would you use this same set of multipliers to Gotenks and the other fusion tiers?

More than anything I have that tremendous difference, because Goku Black Base was >> Goku SSJ3. I also have Vegeta SSJG (Post Rosat)> Goku Black SSJ (Post Zenkai)> Vegeta SSJB (Pre Rosat). I have the multiplier of SSJ (Post Zenkai) for Goku Black 10x its Base.

 

[Keedounan]

Well, my multipliers are:

SSJ: xPlot
SSJ2: xPlot
SSJ3: xPlot
SSJG: xPlot
SSJB: xPlot

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Well, my multipliers are:

SSJ: xPlot
SSJ2: xPlot
SSJ3: xPlot
SSJG: xPlot
SSJB: xPlot

I can't believe you found Toriyama's multipliers!

 

[VampireWicked]

Super Saiyan - 50x the Saiyan's normal battle power
2. Super Saiyan 2 - 2x the "strength" of Super Saiyan, or 100x normal power.
3. Super Saiyan 3 - 4x the "strength" of Super Saiyan 2, or a whopping 400x normal power.

My total guess
4. SuperSaiyan God (RED) 1million x SuperSaiyan 3
5. SuperSaiyan BLUE x50 SuperSaiyan God (RED)
6. Ultra-Instinct x400 SuperSaiyan BLUE x20 Kaioken

 

[SIAD]

Super Saiyan - 50x the Saiyan's normal battle power
2. Super Saiyan 2 - 2x the "strength" of Super Saiyan, or 100x normal power.
3. Super Saiyan 3 - 4x the "strength" of Super Saiyan 2, or a whopping 400x normal power.

My total guess
4. SuperSaiyan God (RED) 1million x SuperSaiyan 3
5. SuperSaiyan BLUE x50 SuperSaiyan God (RED)
6. Ultra-Instinct x400 SuperSaiyan BLUE x20 Kaioken

Do you have Goku UI = 8,000,000,000,000x Goku Base (ToP)?