Mecha Frieza 50%?

[SIAD]

If so, for Frieza it was a warm-up to face Future Trunks, because he had to use his 100% power in an attack.

As for the Manga, Mecha Frieza was at 50% in his resting state, but the moment he attacks Future Trunks he uses his 100%?

Surely Freeza can pass in an instant and without increasing his musculature from 50% to 100%.

Frieza (100%) = 100

Goku SSJ (Namek) = 110

Mecha Frieza 50% = 60

Mecha Freiza 50% (Death Ball) = 120

King Cold = 80

Mecha Frieza 100% (Hypothetical in the Anime) = 120

Mecha Frieza (Manga) = 120

Future Trunks SSJ = 160

Goku SSJ (Post Yadart) = 192

What do you think?

 

[Papasmurf]

I think Freeza went 100% in the anime when he shot that massive death ball personally. In the manga I think he only went to 70%.

I always thought Mecha Freeza and FnF/ToP Freeza didn't need to go buff to access his 100% though, fuck the anime's take on it.

 

[SIAD]

I think Freeza went 100% in the anime when he shot that massive death ball personally. In the manga I think he only went to 70%.

I always thought Mecha Freeza and FnF/ToP Freeza didn't need to go buff to access his 100% though, fuck the anime's take on it.

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And Mecha Frieza at the time he was killed by Future Trunks, was he using his 100% in the Anime?

I'm suspecting that in the Anime Mecha Frieza was using his 50% and only by throwing that Ball of Death did he use his 100% and then return to his 50%, since later Tenshinhan was even more surprised that Future Trunks SSJ easily killed King Cold to kill Mecha Frieza in an instant.

What do you think?

 

[Papasmurf]

The anime and related guidebooks place Cold as the stronger of the two as opposed to the manga iirc

 

[SIAD]

The anime and related guidebooks place Cold as the stronger of the two as opposed to the manga iirc

So: King Cold > Mecha Freezer > Goku SSJ (Namek) > Freezer (100%)?

 

[Papasmurf]

It seems so, at least anime wise. They probably wanted to add some tension as to whether Cold would lose to the mysterious stranger.

 

[SIAD]

It seems so, at least anime wise. They probably wanted to add some tension as to whether Cold would lose to the mysterious stranger.

If Frieza's power (100%) is 100. What level do you give Goku SSJ (Namek), Mecha Frieza, King Cold, Future Trunks SSJ (Debut), Goku SSJ (Post Yadart)?

 

[Hector]

Initial Mehca Freeza - 50%
Firing the blast - 70%
Unseen power - 100%

 

[SIAD]

Initial Mehca Freeza - 50%
Firing the blast - 70%
Unseen power - 100%

Do you think that if Mecha Frieza had used his 100%, he would have increased in volume?

 

[Hector]

Do you think that if Mecha Frieza had used his 100%, he would have increased in volume?

I don't know.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I think Freeza went 100% in the anime when he shot that massive death ball personally. In the manga I think he only went to 70%.

I always thought Mecha Freeza and FnF/ToP Freeza didn't need to go buff to access his 100% though, fuck the anime's take on it.

At least in RoF it doesn’t make sense for him to take the time to master his 100% but not his Golden form. In the ToP he’s probably buffing beyond 100%.

@SIAD I’m thinking Mecha Freeza (100%) > SSJ Goku (Namek) >= Namek Freeza (100%) >>> King Cold > or = Mecha Freeza (50%)

 

[SIAD]

At least in RoF it doesn’t make sense for him to take the time to master his 100% but not his Golden form. In the ToP he’s probably buffing beyond 100%.

@SIAD I’m thinking Mecha Freeza (100%) > SSJ Goku (Namek) >= Namek Freeza (100%) >>> King Cold > or = Mecha Freeza (50%)

I have:

Namek:


Frieza (100%) = 135,000,000

Goku SSJ = 150,000,000


Return of Frieza:


Mecha Frieza (50%) = 82,500,000
(Ball of Death) = 165,000,000
(Hypothetical 100%) = 165,000,000

King Cold = 108,000,000

Future Trunks SSJ = 220,000,000

Goku SSJ = 250,000,000

 

[Yoshi]

Here's what I have:

Mecha Freeza 100%: 160,000,000
SSJ Goku: 150,000,000
Mecha Freeza Suppressed: 130,000,000
Organic Freeza 100%: 120,000,000
King Cold: 110,000,000

 

[Hector]

The anime and related guidebooks place Cold as the stronger of the two as opposed to the manga iirc

How about this?

Freeza- 120
SSJ Goku- 150
Mecha Freeza- 130
King Cold- 140
Future Trunks- 160

 

[Papasmurf]

It's only in the anime. The manga makes it clear that Mecha Freeza considers himself the strongest in the universe (except perhaps SSJ Goku whom he's not sure he can beat by himself), a claim which Cold doesn't deny. Cold also praised Trunks as the universe's strongest when he cleaved Freeza to pieces (rather than bragging that he is even stronger than Freeza), even if it was just flattery as he thought the secret was in his well-crafted sword.

 

[ahill1]

It's only in the anime. The manga makes it clear that Mecha Freeza considers himself the strongest in the universe (except perhaps SSJ Goku whom he's not sure he can beat by himself), a claim which Cold doesn't deny. Cold also praised Trunks as the universe's strongest when he cleaved Freeza to pieces (rather than bragging that he is even stronger than Freeza), even if it was just flattery as he thought the secret was in his well-crafted sword.

What do you think about arguing Cold was stronger than organic Freeza but below Mecha Freeza?

 

[Papasmurf]

What do you think about arguing Cold was stronger than organic Freeza but below Mecha Freeza?

Other than the Z anime and some related guides most sources seem to consider Organic Freeza to be above Cold as well. One guide even claimed Freeza's power surpassed Cold's at birth.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1068919802616377344

 

[Kyo]

Here's what I have:

Mecha Freeza Suppressed: 130,000,000
Organic Freeza 100%: 120,000,000

wrong

 

[SIAD]

I'm thinking that if Mecha Frieza had fought with all his power, maybe Future Trunks SSJ before splitting him in 2, would have given him a strong blow to the stomach and then split him in 2 with his sword. Or maybe Future Trunks SSJ would have similarly killed him, but it would take an instant longer to slash him in 2 (maybe something similar to when he slashed Gigant Zamasu in 2).

Either way, Future Trunks SSJ would have finished Mecha Frieza in an instant, I like to have them with a gap of 1,333..., similar to Vegeta's advantage over Cui, strong enough to finish him off very easily and very quickly.

I think Mecha Freeza used his 50%, but when he launched his Ball of Death, that attack had access to his 100% and as we saw, it didn't hurt Future Trunks SSJ in the slightest.

 

[Yoshi]

wrong

That was my old listing, I forgot I had changed it since then.

Mecha Freeza 100%: 160,000,000
SSJ Goku: 150,000,000
Organic Freeza 100%: 120,000,000
King Cold: 110,000,000
Mecha Freeza Suppressed: 100,000,000