Metal Cooler vs Android 17/18

[Papasmurf]

Goku is Hit.

 

[p123]

Ooo, just found another one to add to the ignore list.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

I think if 17 and 18 have any sense at all they'll be able to win before Cooler can repair himself to their level.

 

[p123]

Even if they take out one Cooler, we see what the counter to that is. It will be 1,000 Coolers. I think you are going to need someone really powerful to take out Cooler with that in mind. Anyone play Xenoverse 2 vs the Metal Coolers? That seems challenging as fuck. Might need to be a Semi Cell leveled character to clear that.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

I thought it was just one Cooler, my mistake. The androids' infinite energy is gonna help them a lot here but it's not nearly enough to beat thousands of Coolers, especially if they're all as strong as the post-repair version of the first one.

 

[p123]

One Cooler is fine for this thread, just bringing up that point too. Let's get back to what you are saying.

It seems that Metal Cooler is stronger than Vegeta by a wide margin, it seems to be even more than 18 was superior to Vegeta.

I think Metal Cooler is probably around 17's strength after his first regeneration. He's a fucking beast. Metal Cooler doesn't get enough respect.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

Did 18 say she was serious by the end of the fight with Vegeta or am I wrong?

 

[SSJ2]

Her and Vegeta both got serious midway through the fight.

 

[p123]

She couldn't have been all that serious. Vegeta considers Cell's power to be absurdly powerful and he's still a good margin below 18. Wacky writing.

 

[SSJ2]

I think he would consider 18 to be in the absurdly powerful group too, no? He just didn't admit it considering she beat him physically and shattered his pride..

 

[p123]

I don't think she showed anything absurdly more powerful than him other than the mini tank. Her tanking Trunks sword attack looked absurdly powerful though.

 

[SSJ2]

I agree. Maybe her effort levels were all over the place.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

To be fair, anything above Vegeta at this point would be enough for him to consider absurdly powerful, considering how dead set he was on the idea that a Super Saiyan is nigh-invincible once he became one.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

Is 18 really that far above Cell, though? Are there some statements I'm missing?

 

[SSJ2]

Is 18 really that far above Cell, though? Are there some statements I'm missing?

I don't have her that far ahead of Gingertown Cell. All that is said is that Piccolo rivals both of them. That doesn't have to mean Cell can't be a distant rival to 18 imo.

 

[p123]

Piccolo
~ suppressed 25,000,000
~ full power 1,250,000,000

Trunks
~ base power 27,000,000
~ Super Saiyan 1,350,000,000

Son Goku
~ base power 29,000,000
~ Super Saiyan (post KHH) 800,000,000
~ Super Saiyan (sick) 1,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan 1,450,000,000

Vegeta
~ base power 30,000,000
~ Super Saiyan 1,500,000,000

Imperfect Cell
~ 2,000,000,000

Android 18
~ 2,250,000,000

Piccolo (Fused w/ Kami)
~ w/ weights 2,250,000,000
~ w/o weights 2,500,000,000

Android 17
~ 2,500,000,000