Movie 10 LSSjin Broli vs SSjin 2 Goku

[Event Horizon]

Gohan said "as ever", meaning it's the same as usual.

E.g. "He's as friendly as ever" means that he's just as friendly as he's always been or usually is. Doesn't mean that he's suddenly more friendly.
"He's as strong as ever"
"He's as bad a monster as ever"

It's the same thing. Gohan is saying that M10 SSJ Broli is just as bad as usual, referencing M8 LSSJ Broli, meaning M10 SSJ Broli ~ M8 LSSJ Broli

 

[Mystic]

I don't see you presenting any evidence to convince me that Goku can beat him. You're only saying that Gohan < Goku.

 

[Pakl]

Gohan said "as ever", meaning it's the same as usual.

E.g. "He's as friendly as ever" means that he's just as friendly as he's always been or usually is. Doesn't mean that he's suddenly more friendly.
"He's as strong as ever"
"He's as bad a monster as ever"

It's the same thing. Gohan is saying that M10 SSJ Broli is just as bad as usual, referencing M8 LSSJ Broli, meaning M10 SSJ Broli ~ M8 LSSJ Broli

For starters it doesnt need to mran M10 SSjin Broli is as strong as M8 LSSjin Broli but that Broli is the same as before meaning in the same form

How does "as ever" mesns the same??? "As ever" should mean he is stronger.. hence stronger than he ever was

If he was to say "as always" you would have a point

M10 SSjin Broli > M8 LSSjin Broli

Mystic, SSjin 2 Goku is stronger than SSjin 2 Kid Gohan who is much stronger than SSjin 2 Teen Gohan

Gokus gap on Gohan is big enough to wreck him too... You say its no different like Goku and Gohan are equals

 

[Pyro]

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/as-ever

 

[Pakl]

Ok it can mean he is still a monster despite being defeated before.. M10 SSjin Broli doesnt need to be as strong as M8 LSSjin Broli for that statement to work

 

[Pyro]

He doesn't need to be, but it makes the most sense in this context.

 

[Event Horizon]

I gave you perfect examples where "as ever" is used in context. And KP further proved that it means what I've stated.

And what makes Broli a monster? Exactly, his power. Broli was only SSJ when Gohan made the statement and Gohan only fought LSSJ Broli previously.
Put two and two together and stop trying to twist it and make it overly complicated.

M10 SSJ Broli ~ M8 LSSJ Broli

 

[Pakl]

It can also mean he didnt get stronger or he is stronger in SSjin which is why he is a monster as ever

The "as ever" doesnt need to be taken literally

More like to show Broli is still strong...

 

[Pyro]

We know Broly got stronger, it's stated in the guidebooks from Toriyama. Yet "he's a bad a monster as ever" doesn't mean...?

 

[Pakl]

I gave you perfect examples where "as ever" is used in context. And KP further proved that it means what I've stated.

And what makes Broli a monster? Exactly, his power. Broli was only SSJ when Gohan made the statement and Gohan only fought LSSJ Broli previously.
Put two and two together and stop trying to twist it and make it overly complicated.

M10 SSJ Broli ~ M8 LSSJ Broli

Gohan saw and sensed M8 SSjin Brol...

Actually him saying he was a bad a monster as ever means he is exactly the same power in equal forms

As I said before, it doesnt need to be said about his current power but just that he is still a chalange after 7 years

M19 SSjin Broli > Boo Arc SSjin Goku

M8 LSSjin Broli is no match for Boo Arc SSjin Goku

It also makes no sense for you

You believe M8 Broli is as strong as Perfect Cell no?

Well M10 SSjin Broli being stronger than just SSjin Goku makes him still well below Cell

Also stop taking quotes of TOEI too deeply

And he doesnt say he was as strong as ever either

 

[Pakl]

We know Broly got stronger, it's stated in the guidebooks from Toriyama. Yet "he's a bad a monster as ever" doesn't mean...?

I know

I am saying the line refers to him to be still a monster after 7 years

He never said "as strong as ever"

 

[SuperGogeta]

Goku destroys Broly IMO, Broly might be stronger than Adult Gohan, but that doens't mean he can beat Goku who is much stronger than Adult Gohan

 

[Zippy]

I think ssj2 goku is stronger, he wins imo

 

[Event Horizon]

I gave you perfect examples where "as ever" is used in context. And KP further proved that it means what I've stated.

And what makes Broli a monster? Exactly, his power. Broli was only SSJ when Gohan made the statement and Gohan only fought LSSJ Broli previously.
Put two and two together and stop trying to twist it and make it overly complicated.

M10 SSJ Broli ~ M8 LSSJ Broli

Gohan saw and sensed M8 SSjin Brol...

Actually him saying he was a bad a monster as ever means he is exactly the same power in equal forms

As I said before, it doesnt need to be said about his current power but just that he is still a chalange after 7 years

M19 SSjin Broli > Boo Arc SSjin Goku

M8 LSSjin Broli is no match for Boo Arc SSjin Goku

It also makes no sense for you

You believe M8 Broli is as strong as Perfect Cell no?

Well M10 SSjin Broli being stronger than just SSjin Goku makes him still well below Cell

Also stop taking quotes of TOEI too deeply

And he doesnt say he was as strong as ever either

It clearly does not mean in equal forms when Gohan said it about SSJ Broli. In M8, Gohan sensed a restricted SSJ Broli, but who did he actually battle against? Exactly, LSSJ Broli.

You're right, he doesn't outright say "as strong as ever" but if you look at the statement as a whole and the context, it implies that he's referencing his strength.

Context: after trading some blows with SSJ Broli
Gohan: "He's just as bad a monster as ever. And here I'm supposed to have powered up considerably since back then"

He's talking about how Broli is just as bad as ever and then he's talking about his own strength.

M10 LSSJ Broli > M10 SSJ Broli ~ M8 LSSJ Broli > M8 SSJ Broli

And if you're looking at the English dub of it, Gohan is saying that "Broli is still as much of a challenge as last time" Also implying the chain above^

TOEI are then ones who made the movie, there are no other quotes to be taken lol
And we all know how you love to pretend the Cell Games never happened and all that stuff that I'm not even gonna bother with.

 

[Pyro]

The entire context is power. I don't know what else Gohan could be talking about.