New Two-Base Evidence

[ekrolo2]

Back in 2015, to celebrate the release of Resurrection F, V-Jump released a full color art book to promote the film that gives you artwork from Toriyama along with bits of information regarding the characters.

As you can see here, Toriyama makes mention of Saiyan's being able to attain God-like levels of power without changing form (Saiyan Beyond God) but then going SS to attain a new level of power (SSGod SS). If this is meant to count for the anime and even the manga (with SSGod replacing Saiyan Beyond God, obviously) this would resolve quite a few of the issues regarding how Goku & Vegeta's powers work.

Do bear in mind that this was written when Resurrection F was a thing, back when Goku & Vegeta weren't far off from Beerus and couldn't use the golden SS line anymore so the possibility of a silent retcon isn't entirely off the table.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Two bases is a thing. Take it from the PGOAT, or i'll lick your donuts.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Do bear in mind that this was written when Resurrection F was a thing, back when Goku & Vegeta weren't far off from Beerus and couldn't use the golden SS line anymore so the possibility of a silent retcon isn't entirely off the table.

A retcon it is, seeing as how their use of SSG in the manga contradicts what this implies.

 

[Papasmurf]

Most of the shit from the movies is bunk, like the 6/10/15 table which is more like 3/30/45 even in the manga