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Dodoria - 19,500 - 20,000

Zarbon - 21,000

Zarbon didn't say anything. I didn't hear anything. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
 

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I have him below 21k.
 

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I just go with Dodoria 22k and Zarbon 23k. Both are just trash when it comes to fighting.

Both should be much stronger than Vegeta and Kiwi.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
I just go with Dodoria 22k and Zarbon 23k. Both are just trash when it comes to fighting.

Both should be much stronger than Vegeta and Kiwi.
They should be, but the gaps are just too close here. Vegeta owned both of them, so he has something to show for being higher than them, where-as neither of them really do for their side (other than them logically being a-lot higher).
 

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They're garbage fighters. Zarbon hasn't been pushed to transform in forever, so he's most likely did nothing but beat up on weaker guys for almost 30 yrs. Dodoria is just a fat pink piece of shit.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Dodoria is just a fat pink piece of shit.
Hey, you don't talk about a lady like that, please. :CC :CC :CC

jk :king :king :king

But I don't know it's always been shown power over anything in DragonBall. On-top of that them being rusty wouldn't affect their speed or what-ever, right?!
 

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I thought Zarbon was the lady?!!!! :troll

It depends. If they never had to utilize their speed in an actual battle, then it probably would. Zarbon looked all impressive speed blitzing the old Nameks, but he couldn't do shit in a real fight...against someone close to him. Vegeta did say he was out fighting the entire time while Freeza's men were just hanging around Freeza like lil bitches.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
I thought Zarbon was the lady?!!!! :troll

It depends. If they never had to utilize their speed in an actual battle, then it probably would. Zarbon looked all impressive speed blitzing the old Nameks, but he couldn't do shit in a real fight...against someone close to him. Vegeta did say he was out fighting the entire time while Freeza's men were just hanging around Freeza like lil bitches.
Dodoria wore the lip-stick. :cage1 :cage1 :cage1

And Zarbon got out-sped by Vegeta. :cage2 :cage2 :cage2
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
They're garbage fighters. Zarbon hasn't been pushed to transform in forever, so he's most likely did nothing but beat up on weaker guys for almost 30 yrs. Dodoria is just a fat pink piece of shit.

Whatchu say, muthafucka? The power of Super Saiyan Dodoria is unfathomable, and the reason why Freeza said Ginyu wasn't surpassed until he fought Goku (Ginyu took his body by accident once and returned it out of undying respect).

In fact, the very reason Vegeta ambushed Dodo while he was in base to knock him into the water was because he knew all legendary Super Saiyans were weak against water (like Bio-Broly). Dodoria then fed him a cover story framing Freeza for the destruction of the Saiyan planet to buy time until he could recover, but in truth we know who was truly responsible:

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^do you see? SSjin Dodo so boss he can blow up planets with his mind :cage2
 

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Imagine a fusion between Dodoria and Zarbon.

Papasmurf said:
Evil Vegeta said:
They're garbage fighters. Zarbon hasn't been pushed to transform in forever, so he's most likely did nothing but beat up on weaker guys for almost 30 yrs. Dodoria is just a fat pink piece of shit.

Whatchu say, muthafucka? The power of Super Saiyan Dodoria is unfathomable, and the reason why Freeza said Ginyu wasn't surpassed until he fought Goku (Ginyu took his body by accident once and returned it out of undying respect).

In fact, the very reason Vegeta ambushed Dodo while he was in base to knock him into the water was because he knew all legendary Super Saiyans were weak against water (like Bio-Broly). Dodoria then fed him a cover story framing Freeza for the destruction of the Saiyan planet to buy time until he could recover, but in truth we know who was truly responsible:

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^do you see? SSjin Dodo so boss he can blow up planets with his mind :cage2

How the fuck did I miss this post?!!

I change my mind now. :troll :troll
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Imagine a fusion between Dodoria and Zarbon.

Papasmurf said:
Evil Vegeta said:
They're garbage fighters. Zarbon hasn't been pushed to transform in forever, so he's most likely did nothing but beat up on weaker guys for almost 30 yrs. Dodoria is just a fat pink piece of shit.

Whatchu say, muthafucka? The power of Super Saiyan Dodoria is unfathomable, and the reason why Freeza said Ginyu wasn't surpassed until he fought Goku (Ginyu took his body by accident once and returned it out of undying respect).

In fact, the very reason Vegeta ambushed Dodo while he was in base to knock him into the water was because he knew all legendary Super Saiyans were weak against water (like Bio-Broly). Dodoria then fed him a cover story framing Freeza for the destruction of the Saiyan planet to buy time until he could recover, but in truth we know who was truly responsible:

5975900_orig.jpg


^do you see? SSjin Dodo so boss he can blow up planets with his mind :cage2

How the fuck did I miss this post?!!

I change my mind now. :troll :troll

Now you see the truth. :cage2
 

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2kewl4u said:
Dodoria - 19,500 - 20,000

Zarbon - 21,000

Zarbon didn't say anything. I didn't hear anything. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

I used to agree until recently. Then, though, a read an interesting theory from the author of Bringer Of Death fanfic: Power levels measure
ki and ki affects all the traits of a fighter, not just strength. Therefore, 10% an advantage means you're 10% stronger (you do 10% more
damage than the foe) and 10% more durable (you take 10% less damage than the foe), so it is actually 20% an advantage.
Another person added that this also mean you're also 10% faster (which i deduced is 10% greater a chance to hit the foe and 10% less chance
to be hit). All in all, 10% is a serious advantage.
From this point of view, Zarbon's and Dodoria's PLs are explained so much better. Actually, it is implied four times in the saga they're close
to Vegeta:
-Zarbon stating Vegeta surpasses them only when he heard about 24k, not about 22k. This means Zarbon can be at 22k, which is about the
10% stomp gap i was talking about.
-Freeza stating they can beat Vegeta if they go together.
-Krillin confusing Dodoria's ki with Vegeta's.
-Krillin hoping Zarbon and Vegeta will kill each other.

Now, an inspection of Vegeta's bout with Zarbon...
-Before transformation (Zarbon: 22 Vegeta:24), their gap is close to 10% and, combined with Vegeta's superior skills, leads to a
domination.
-After transformation, i think it is safe to say that Zarbon's PL is about 28k (Vegeta post zenkai was a little less than 30k and
slightly stronger than Monster Zarbon). Therefore, with 1.16x a gap, Zarbon disposes of Vegeta in seconds.
I think those two fights of the scouter era can be a good guideline about where to place the gaps for the rest of the series.
 
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